Because it is full of holes.

All Bernie has is volunteers. HRC has almost the entire Dem Establishment. In other words, people who have a financial and career interest in maintaining Business As Usual. BAU is destroying the planet, not just America.

Seems like sour grapes to me.

Either he is deluded, or acting out of self interest. It's analogous to HRC's IWR vote in 2002, imo.

I think if you shoukd look in a mirror before you call others deluded.

The majority of Americans are to the left of both parties, because of 35 years of Reaganism destroying the planet and oppressing the people.

Let me ask you this: do you know what the Sixth Extinction is? Do you know the significance of 400PPM is? That is what I meant by deluded.

I do not think you should insult Dean because you don't like hhis choice.

Makes you look bitter.

Cheers.

this is well beyond the United States.

To address much, if any of these issues.

on any side... we are way late to the party... thankfully not at the state level (some states), and the Feds are trying.

Because he deserves a lot of criticism for backing a corporate lackey at this late point in human history.

You do realize that the GOP defeated us badly in the last election and control both the senate and house as well as many governors and the SCOTUS don't you?...if that is a gain what the hell is a loss?

But it is not their fault is it?...lets stick with them and next time it will work out...that is the enabler position every time.

I don't think Sanders can win.

So praise them if you want, but don't give credit where it is not earned.

Because if it is HRC we stand to lose the WH and the GOP will keep the congress.
People ARE fed up with politics as usual...you can feel it in the air...even in the GOP and that is why Trump is doing well...he is viewed as not an insider.

But I will predict this...if Hillary is the nominee the GOP will pick a Bush or maybe even a woman and they will sound moderate enough that the party will turn out in force just to vote against HRC if nothing else and independents and some Dems will stay home because they see no potential for real change...and some here at DU will blame Sanders and his supporters.

Agree completely.

Do you mean Obama finally realizing that hourly "supervisors" should not be forced to work without compensation as a company policy?

Do you mean Obama finally bringing back the 40 hour work week that unions gave us 75 years ago?

You do realize that the GOP LOST badly in the last PRESIDENTIAL election and WE WON MORE HOUSE AND SENATE SEATS? Even with an establishment "practically a Republican" Presidential candidate?

The guy has been there 26yrs but some think he just arrived in DC. Yes were back to the ponies and unicorn wing of the Democratic Party.

And the president we elected can't get anything done and has an excuse?
How does that make us a winner?
But he did get fast track on the TPP...something most Dems don't want...but I won't speak for you, you can tell us if you want it or not because all of the GOP do.

declaring their support for Bernie, and along with some anti-Hillary rants.

They are sadly mistaken if they believe going after a Hillary supporter helps Bernie

verbiage

his recent ringing endorsement of their candidate?

Or are no Hillary supporters FB friends with Dr. Dean?

candidate? I could understand Trump supporters behaving this way, but it's not like Sanders is saying nasty things about his primary opponents as Trump has.

don't go after Howard Dean because he supports Hillary.

I don't see it written anywhere that you can't "go after" a public figure for making a decision you don't agree with.

Is Dr. Dean "God?" Is he above reproach?

listening to Sanders' refusal to attack fellow Democrats. It's also safe to say the behavior I have seen on Twitter is not limited to that social media platform.

Primary politics is a contact sport and people's zeal leads them to be impolitic. No group in this campaign is free from that assertion.

Supporters will be the ones who actually vote for him and get out and campaign for him, not those who wave and cheer him on like a screamer at a Miley concert. 'Fans' tend to get nasty when their idol is offended. Supporters work through the rough parts of an election and take the good with the bad in stride. 'FANS' can be very fickle...They jump ship when their idol looks like he or she is losing popularity. I would rather have 1000 Clinton supporters than 10000 sanders fans. 

DU has a LOT of sanders fans!!!

They view him like a rock star.

"The Bernmaster" "the Beminator" "Obi Bern Kenobi"

Seriously?

It's so out in left field it's hilarious, but if it makes you feel better, go with it.

If your 1,000 Clinton supporters don't convince their candidate to stop legislating and advocating for her corporate contributors.

Clinton is the one with fans who don't give a shit about issues.

He's been my Senator for years. I am donating time and money and I will fight for him the way I once fought for Dean.

But we need to preempt another PUMA movement when Bernie wins the nomination.

how did you know what I meant?

nothing. President Obama still won the general election with the support of the majority of HRC supporters.

But the 2008 campaign became very divisive and this general election might be closer than 2008, so we need party unity ASAP when the nomination is resolved.

I have not met on HRC supporter say they would not vote for him.

even knowing that he wouldn't have a chance in the general. That is party loyalty.

I posted an op some time back explaining my feeling about non voters. I call them 'no ways' for obvious reasons.

and I have met them for all candidates actually, Ok not Chaffee and Webb, and they all still amount to less than my ten fingers. That is how big it is right now. But hey, I report on this shit... and as a reporter a nice PUMA movement would be ahem, conflict. As an American that would be a problem.

However, given both the events of 2008's primary campaign, and what I've seen from them since April 30, I'm not sure if I believe them.

as they say in public.

Call us liars all you want but it only makes you look foolish.

And do bear in mind reading this, that I do recognize you are someone who genuinely supports Clinton for the sake of supporting Clinton.

But what I've seen since Sanders declared his candidacy is constant, screaming rage directed at him. A never-ending parade of posters and tweeters and facebookers and whatnot, throwing out every slander, every lie, every nugget of potential outrage and anger and disgust about the man that they can. And we're only four months in, with no signs that it will let up

People who have invested so much time, energy, and effort into constant hatred of a candidate are really going to turn around and vote for him? I simply struggle to believe that.

We have our faults but we are not the one who started it nor who does it the most.


Sorry but this is really rich coming from a Sanders supporter.

And if there is a Sanders version of the PUMAS, maybe you'll even be vindicated for doing so.

If there is ever a "pro-Sanders" equivalent to the PUMA movement, maybe you'll be vindicated in so doing.

...aren't you?

I'm saying I have no reason to think history will not repeat itself.

Maybe ou should spend more of your time worrying about what your guys are doing

bad Sanders is. My guys don't make DU suck.


Look to your guys for that.

No matter who the nominee is... It's just going to get worse in the GE.

Primaries are always nastier.

If you think the woman who caused Benghazi or a bonfide socialist are going to get a pass from the right wing... Ok.

No, what I mean is, we all expect nasty bullshit from the Republicans. It's a different thing when the naked hatred and rage is coming from "your own side" who then smile sweetly and say "I'll vote for them anyway!"

So you tell me.

I guess compared to Bush in the context of 2004 and the goings on back then he might have seemed like one to the desperate. This reminds me of the people who claim they were fooled by Obama, they weren't paying attention.

This endorsement doesn't surprise me in the least, I would have been in shock if he came out for Sanders!

He was always a centrist Dem, left-center by national standards, and right-center by Vermont standards.

I guess this will be and is a grass roots campaign, and if it's strong enough, the status quo politicians will jump onto the band wagon. Certainly in the general.

If anyone wants to debate rationally and civilly, I'm willing to do that in a few hours or less.

And any endorsement he makes will not change that. It will also have no effect on who I am supporting.

However, I don't think he thought back then that Bernie was going to run.

Dean was never the same after the establishment destroyed him.

They will attempt to do the same to Bernie. Let's figure a week before Iowa caucuses or NH primaries, it will get very ugly.

We were a few of the last Dean holdouts, despite pleas (and a little bullying) from the Kucinich people (the Kerry people didn't bother. They didn't want any of us great unwashed to caucus with them). I thought of her, and how she went to the convention as a Dean delegate, when I read Dean's declaration of loyalty to the Clinton campaign the other night. Thanks for posting this and bringing back bittersweet memories of more than a decade ago.
Why do I think he's become so vocal? I believe he thinks he will earn a seat at the Big Kids table by throwing early support behind Hillary. I also believe they will leave him in their dust once again should she win the nomination and general election.

and became a shill. Damn Jekyll and Hyde s.o.b..

I did not add a sarcasm splash because I thought it would throw off the poetic aspect of my post. "Thrill and "shill".

Since I couldn't imagine that a person who had admired Dr. Dean would use "shill" as a description of his character for supporting Hillary, I fell into a rapturous swoon.

While in my swoon I composed a tune to be a comfort to the injured soul who, seemingly, was betrayed by Dean.

So now the once revered Dr. Dean is a "shill"?. Such a dramatic fall from grace deserves due recognition.

sarcasm very dry.. well done, oasis.

LOL

to complement my passionate wife's outrage:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128045525