2016 Postmortem
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by Christian Schneider | In My Opinion
There's a hot new name in politics, and the kids are lining up to see his road show. When this up-and-comer graces a stage in your town, be sure to pick up your tickets quickly because they're going fast.
It just so happens that this scintillating new face, Bernie Sanders, is a 73-year-old socialist preaching from a populist playbook written well before these young voters' grandparents were born.
Politics, of course, is cyclical. Think of the music business every few years an act comes along and takes advantage of all the young fans who aren't old enough to remember a virtually identical act just a few years before. One Direction fans are too young for the Backstreet Boys and N*Sync, whose fans are too young for New Kids on the Block. Miley is simply the natural progression from Madonna to Britney to Gaga to Katy Perry. For every emerging generation, it's all brand-new, as if nobody has ever mastered this formula before.
That's why the younger you are, the more likely you are to "Feel the Bern" in 2015. A July Economist/YouGov poll found Sanders dead even with Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination among 18- to 29-year-olds. The frumpy septuagenarian has 1.3 million followers on Facebook fewer than Donald Trump, who has 3.4 million, but still more than Hillary Clinton, who has been in the public eye for a quarter century.
And while Sanders first held elective office 34 years ago longer than many of his supporters have been alive they somehow see him as a political outsider. And in an election replete with Trumps and Carsons and Fiorinas on the right, being an "outsider" fighting against Washington, D.C., is worth more than a dozen Koch brothers.
But running against D.C. is as old of a gimmick as it gets. Similarly, Sanders' populist rhetoric far predates even his existence on this Earth. His desire to get money out of politics, tax the rich and regulate big business has strong roots in the populist movements of the late 19th century. In the 1890s, the federal government was widely believed to have been irreparably corrupted by moneyed interests working against blue-collar workers and farmers. This type of public sentiment played a strong role in the formation of the Progressive movement in Wisconsin around the turn of the century.
Read the rest of his crap here:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/bernie-sanders-what-is-old-is-new-again-b99568697z1-323782301.html
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Here he is defending Walker:
The Left has launched a series of bogus charges against the Wisconsin governor. Last week, over 27,000 pages of private e-mails from one of Wisconsin governor Scott Walkers convicted ex-staffers were released. As soon as the document dump hit the Web, Democrats began climbing over themselves to prove that the e-mails showed that during his time as Milwaukee county executive in 2010, Walker was part of a grand criminal conspiracy despite the fact that prosecutors had the e-mails for nearly three years and found Walker had engaged in no criminal wrongdoing. That hasnt kept the gumshoes on the left from digging deep into the e-mails to embarrass Walker with bogus, often puzzling, accusations. With the law-enforcement acumen of Boss Hogg, Democrats continue to try to corner Walker, while he simply hops in the General Lee and escapes unharmed.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/371932/unhinged-walker-attacks-christian-schneider?target=author&tid=902641
Scuba
(53,475 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If they hadn't gotten ahead of that hit piece a HC supporter would have posted it and it would have gotten 30 recs.
They don't care what the source is.
Ron Green
(9,823 posts)articles about Bernie are becoming more and more mainstream; not necessarily a bad thing.
The truth will have its own trajectory.
a kennedy
(29,694 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)While their grandkids are going to see the 'new' Bernie Sanders, the grandparents are still driving off to see the same old act that's been playing for decades.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)He is correct that such things are cyclical. But his conclusion that "this too shall pass" indicates a total lack of understanding of WHY populism is a NECESSARY part of the ongoing give-and-take between the monied and powerful and everyone else.
Plus he is totally clueless about how extensive the grip of the current crop of Robber Barons has become.
Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)In fact, it can be argued that special interests have less sway over politics now than they ever have. At the time, railroads controlled commerce from coast to coast, and bought up congressmen like cuff links. The entire political debate was monopolized by partisan newspapers, which were owned by ideologically driven publishers. Nobody knew how much rich people contributed to candidates, or how much candidates spent to run their campaigns.
Today, the proliferation of social media has diversified political information in a way that could not have been envisioned a century ago. Don't like something a Republican says? Record a message on your phone, upload it to YouTube, tweet it and Facebook it. And if you want to know who's influencing your legislator, more campaign finance and lobbying information is available at your fingertips than ever before.
Ironically, Sanders' own campaign might be demonstrating how anachronistic his message is. While the major candidates raise and spend hundreds of millions of dollars, Sanders is mostly subsisting on social media to spread his message. If mountains of campaign cash are needed to win elections, how is Sanders surging to within striking distance of Clinton? Are his voters being bought off with Groupons?
In 2015, what's old is new again. But with the benefit of history, we know it, too, shall pass.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/bernie-sanders-what-is-old-is-new-again-b99568697z1-323782301.html
Ancient Rome was a republic until it wasn't, Pre-Revolutionary France was a Monarchy until it wasn't, Weimar Germany was a semi-presidential representative democracy until it wasn't,
If the author believes that politicians today can't be bought like cuff links, he hasn't been paying attention.
Today the stakes are even greater than in the late 19th century, global warming didn't threaten civilization or life as know it during the Guilded Age and the only reason this critical issue hasn't been dealt with in the way it should have been is because politicians today can most certainly be purchased as clothing apparel.
Thanks for the thread, a kennedy.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,767 posts)Re-do is all they got?
I'm laughing so hard I can hardly tap this out....
Didn't stop any of the music groups he mentioned from becoming wildly popular and very successful.