resist to invoke something negative about Hillary

That lack of objectivity speaks volumes, and puts emphasis on ones lack of credibility

Is that English? I have no idea what it means.

Their opinion lacks objectivity, and therefore meaningless to me

I am still confused.

Some posters might, but not this one.

results. How did this speech end up helping women? It was great at the time. But women across the world do not seem to have gained much since then.

You can't take umbrage with the message but you certainly can point out it's effectiveness or lack there-of.

not know.

about Hillary.

Bernie Sanders has so much more class and character than some of his supporters, who do nothing to help Bernie

You were okay with that bit of swiftboating.

The hypocrisy of Clinton supporters here reeks.

has said, in fact just the opposite, but the usual suspects can't stand anything positive being said for a candidate they don't support

.... I apologize for jumping to conclusions. The same thing happened to me yesterday. I was being confronted to answer for several threads which I had nothing to do with. My name wasn't in any of them. I think that treatment is epidemic and I didn't see it until it happened to me. So I apologize to you for looking tio you to answer for something somebody else did. I'm sure our opinion of things differs dramatically to be sure as illustrated by our different chouce in presidential candidates. but that doesn't give anybody license to blame others indiscriminately. For the record, I still think the swiftboating of Bernie on race here blows, but that's another conversation.

All one needs to do is look at his record to see his civil rights record is superb

I strongly believe most of those type of threads are to get a rise out of the opposing side, because they know better. It is politics at its worst.

There are plenty of issues that can be argued and debated against Hillary.

My only point being that if any candidate's actions represent a good thing, it would be nice, if we could attack the negative aspects, and not the positive. but heck, this is a political forum, for Democratic and progressive politics, and we are in the midst of primary season, so it happens.

You articulated the issue far better than I did.

supporting women's rights and civil rights are not the problems with Hillary or Bernie

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throw him under the bus. "Bad Bernie you're too damned nice, we know better how to win folks over".

gained her worldwide recognition as a beacon of freedom. During the 20 years after her famous speech, Hillary was voted "Most Admired Woman" numerous times. She remains the living inspiration for women everywhere.