He's like Mussolini up there on the stage just giving shit to just about everyone and everything.

My thoughts too!

Its in this video about 10 secs in.

He's a buffoon.

Sanders needs to be more than on his game; he needs to get more money, better state organizations and an in with established party people who control the primary mechanisms in each state.

This is one reason he does not want to insult Hillary or her supporters. Unlike here at DU.
Fortunately the numbers of people influenced by DU are pretty tiny. No offense.

Some supporters of both Clinton and Sanders have behaved poorly. But others have behaved well. I can't see holding that against either of the candidates.

But I have no real preference between Sanders, Clinton, O'Malley or, in theory, Biden.

Well, I for one will not vote for her if there is ANY cheating on her behalf. Be it by DWS by limiting debates, or by superdelegates who don't care about the will of Democratic voters.

Endorsements of the super delegates and all Democratic members of the Congress are some of the delegates. BTW, the GOP also has super delegates, this is not cheating during this election nor unusual. I do not want any cheating either, just saying Bernie will not get the required delegate count to get the 2016 DNC nomination.

democrats insisted on a change in delegate selection. If McGovern
had won we would still have the same rules.

If Bernie gains the majority of delegates, but the super delegates

stick with HRC, the party will face such a rebellion the likes of

which you have not seen. To me that means that a lot of

democratic (not DEMs) voters will stay home due to disgust.

That will be the great result of pushing super delegates

down the peoples' throat.

Will be a rebellion. I don't see a pathway for Bernie to get the required delegates.

They can choose to endorse different candidates whenever they want. And some of them will.

I still think the Super delegate system is flawed and undemocratic, but unlike delegates sent from the states that are required to support the candidate that won that state for the first ballot, there is nothing stopping a superdelegate from supporting whoever the hell they want.

that many democratic voters stood home. That was the only GE that I didn't vote. Right from the get-go, he didn't have snow ball's chance in hell that he could win. Same, I think, would happen to Bernie. I like his ideas, but they will never never pass muster with the majority if the electorate.

I suspect it means, endorsing the candidate some don't support.

Hillary's campaign try to pull this crap in 2008 and it didn't fly. If another candidate gets the delegate votes and wins the primaries, and the superdelegates try to steal this nomination for Hillary, you can pretty much kiss the Democratic Party goodbye.

Did Hillary win the nomination in 2008, no, why, because she did not get enough delegates. The nomination was secured by other territories and super delegates. In 2008 both Obama and Hillary had super delegates, still waiting for Bernie to get the endorsement of some super delegates. I dont think the results will be this close nationwide, ergo the super delegates will get to vote but not the deciding votes.

I dont understand why you think Bernie is entitled to coronation?

My point was that the will of the people whatever it is, has to be respected. The partys already done enough rigging and trickery to tilt this towards Hillary. If they think they're going to steal it for her at the convention, they can forget any votes from people who are disenfranchised in the general.

I have not read one time a Hillary supporter expecting coronation of Hillary but I have read many others saying about the coronation of Hillary. She does not need the coronation, she can win the nomination without coronation.

he doesn't need to cheat to win, and he doesn't have to hide behind Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC because he's afraid to debate his colleagues.

have a nice evening!

Delegates needed.

Less than 100 delegates, he needs 2242 to win.

the tide is with him.

politics as usual is over

feel the bern!

They should stick to predicting general elections in 1 week, rather than primary elections in 6 months.

My point is the fact that they are able to aggregate polls a week before a general election to get a reasonable prediction that is right most of the time doesn't mean they have any skills at predicting a primary in 6 months.

It was by no means a last minute analysis.

Damn, I should use him before the season starts, before the injuries, before the streaks, before the surprises and join a fantasy baseball league and bet on it.

They were saying how someone like Webb, and not Biden and certainly not Sanders would make a good anti-Hillary. Idiots.

As I wrote elsewhere, I've never felt like Sanders has a chance of being nominated and I don't think that's what his campaign is really all about. His campaign is, in his own words, "about creating a grassroots political movement in this country." So that one day we might have a POTUS who truly does represent the will of the people. And not a lesser evil with strong ties to seedy corporations and firms. Because, as we know from numerous surveys, when you set aside that election results are driven by perception and money (and the Cult of Personality) and that most don't really follow politics very closely, large majorities - when asked directly how they feel about various issues - share the same political philosophy as Sanders.

Sanders said, "...no matter who is elected to be president, that person will not be able to address the enormous problems facing the working families of our country. They will not be able to succeed because the power of corporate America, the power of Wall Street, the power of campaign donors is so great that no president alone can stand up to them. That is the truth. People may be uncomfortable about hearing it, but that is the reality. And that is why what this campaign is about is saying loudly and clearly: It is not just about electing Bernie Sanders for president, it is about creating a grassroots political movement in this country."

Lawrence Lessig, being interviewed by Bill Moyers, said, "I mean, we have the data to show this now. There was a Princeton study by Martin Gilens and Ben Page. The largest empirical study of actual policy decisions by our government in the history of our government. And what they did is they related our actual decisions to what the economic elite care about, what the organized interest groups care about, and what the average voter cares about. And when they look at the economic elite, you know, as the percentage of economic elite who support an idea goes up, the probability of it passing goes up. As the organized interests care about something more and more, the probability of it passing goes up. But as the average voter cares about something, it has no effect at all, statistically no effect at all on the probability of it passing. If we can go from zero percent of the average voters caring about something to 100 percent and it doesn't change the probability of it actually being enacted. And when you look at those numbers, that graph, this flat line, that flat line is a metaphor for our democracy. Our democracy is flat lined. Because when you can show clearly there's no relationship between what the average voter cares about, only if it happens to coincide with what the economic elite care about, you've shown that we don't have a democracy anymore."

Robert Jensen wrote, "No matter who votes in elections, powerful unelected forces—the captains of industry and finance—set the parameters of political action. Voting matters, but it matters far less than most people believe, or want to believe. This raises the impolite question of whether democracy and capitalism are compatible. Is political equality possible amid widening economic inequality? Can power be distributed when wealth is concentrated? These questions remain unspeakable in mainstream political circles, even though the economic inequality continues to widen and the distorting effects of concentrated wealth are more evident than ever. The limited successes of the Occupy movement nudged this into view, but this impolite question must be central in our conversations, raised without sectarian rhetoric and with a clearer analysis of the foundational nature of the problem."

We've legalized bribery. Obama's 2nd biggest 'donor' in 2008 was Goldman Sachs, and a Goldman Sachs employee became Treasury Secretary. And there's a revolving door between regulators and the regulated. The foxes are watching the hen house.

Even campaigns themselves have taken to marketing consumer products that have nothing to do with the candidate or issues. And several presidential campaigns have won Ad Age's Marketer of the Year Award (competing against Apple, Coca Cola, etc.). When the Clinton campaign talks about altering the Hillary Clinton brand, that's not a joke--it's just modern day politics.

That's the reality we're up against and have to fight to change. So, no, Sanders isn't going to win. And the comparisons some make to Obama's comeback in 2007/2008 are not apt for a variety of reasons. Obama won states that Sanders simply can't win. Obama was young and charismatic. Obama presented an opportunity to finally have a person of color in the presidency. Obama gave the keynote address at the '04 convention and was an up and coming rock star. Lastly, Obama wasn't "hostile to moneyed interests within the Democratic Party." A CNN poll recently showed that 25% of registered voters haven't heard of Sanders--I doubt that was the case for Obama in 2007.

But Sanders doesn't have to win for his campaign to spark a grassroots campaign that could lead to a Democratic Party that isn't ruled by moneyed interests. One can hope.

The Powers That Be will make damn sure of that, it's now or never I suspect.

The rules and procedures are already stacked against any outsider, if Bernie doesn't make it those rules will be made far more draconian.

people shit. Hillary supporters are people whether you admit it or not. I am not a banker or corporation or the 1%.

I never said Clinton supporters weren't people. The fact remains that Clinton, unlike Sanders, doesn't threaten the moneyed interests. They have financed her entire political career.

And the "Sanders isn't electable" or "Sanders is too far left" stuff is BS. The Dem nominee, regardless of who she/he is, will win the blue states and battle over a handful of swing states. And polls do, in fact, demonstrate that when people are asked specific policy questions large majorities are in line with Sanders. But Sanders isn't nominatable. He threatens the moneyed interests and he lacks the name recognition and political infrastructure that Clinton has.

Like it or not, there is a valid leftist critique of Clinton. It's not all right wing smears.

He's too far out, and he'll be wrong at the end.

ESPN and Las Vegas and Wall Street and the D.C. Beltway, and bring it back to working people and entrepreneurs in small towns and cities all over the country - or not.

We may yet fail this test, but it's worth a try, a very good try.

Enten, one of the staff writers has predicted several times that Sanders would not rise as much, that he had or is peaking, and any number of other unreal rationalizations that are mostly spin.

They have had to change their predictions several times. They will be changing them more. Eventually they will have to admit that completely underestimated Sanders.

I am very hopeful for Sanders but I fear the Clinton machine.

Neither is going to happen. The party establishments have far too much to lose.

He doesn't want to be president. This is for PR and increasingly the brand profile.

My dad liked to recount a conversation he overheard back in the 1960s, when he was working for American Airlines in Tulsa, Okla, and flying home to the Bronx for free with a complementary first-class ticket. The two oilmen in the row ahead of him on one flight were upset because several of their union workers were heading to New York City on vacation in the same section.

"You can't tell the difference between them and us any more," one lamented to the other, according to dad.

The WWII veteran recounted the conversation to me from time to illustrate why he felt the rich and entitled could not be trusted, because they didn't believe in the idea "we're all in this together" as Americans. I learned to judge people by the content of their character, rather than their credit scores, years later at the Columbia University School of Journalism. However, the repugnant behavior of elites like Donald Trump and the reptilian Koch Brothers - who have been waging class warfare against the faltering middle class since 1980 or so - often reminds me of my dad's convictions about income and class in America.

Their detestable behavior has made me a huge fan of both Democratic Socialism and presidential candidate Bernie Sanders. I've got a "Sanders" bumper sticker on my Toyota FJ Cruiser, but I have to be realistic about his nonexistent chance to win the presidency in a general election even as the polls show him closing in on Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Bernie is a much better human being than Duh-Donald - his Republican doppleganger - but enjoys the same unfavorable political trajectory. Both are immensely popular in their respective partisan primaries and completely unelectable in a general election.

Why?

Because the vast majority of U.S. voters are still too stupid and lazy to distinguish between extreme totalitarian forms of socialism - like Communism - and Sander's laudable and desirable Democratic Socialism, which is embraced by the highly evolved social democracies of northern Europe.

Studies by The Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development have repeatedly found that people on this planet are happiest in those nations. Mostly because their governments protect them from the excesses of parasitical businesses like JP Morgan Chase and silver spoon mofos like Dah-Donald, a fake tough guy who thinks it’s cool to publicly humiliate his employees.

The same imbecile voters who buy into the fiction about Communism and Democratic Socialism being one and the same are equally incapable of grasping the concept that there are extreme forms of capitalism which are even more undesirable than Communism. They include slavery, company towns, piracy, collusion, trusts, predatory lending, peonage, monopolies, and indentured servitude.

These extremes exist at the heart of the conservative thinking of the silver spoons mofos who believe they should be able to take whatever they can overpower, greed is good, and all profit is moral.

What's it all mean?

It means U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D – Mass) - who shares Bernie's views about the evils of predatory capitalism and big banks, but is not a socialist - needs to get off her friggn ass and get in the goddamn race already. Because she is electable. Incredibly electable.

This is her time. Not Hillary’s or even Bernie’s - bless his heart.

http://www.cynicaltimes.org/articles/open-letter-to-elizabeth-warren-get-your-ass-in-the-damn-race-already-318.htm

I would put the odds even higher.

I think Walker would still be in the race and would have pretty decent odds. Not that Walker was running a very good campaign, but I think it's Trump-mania that really did him in.

As Silver points out, Walker had just 14 minutes to speak in the 2 debates combined.

Anyway, good riddance.

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The Heisman Trophy this year? Will he get The MLB mOST valuable player award? Will he receive the Willy McCovy Award or be the Cy Young award winner this year? Well Bernie win the ESPY AWARD THIS year?

My question is, what does ESPN know about picking Political winners, when they Can't even predict who will be in the World Series or who will win the Superbowl this year?

ESPN should stick with Sports...and leave picking Political candidates to the voters, or take it to Vegas, where they can put their money where their mouth is.

The Will of the People!

I can see where this is going.

There will be no authentic outcome other than a Bernie Sanders win. No genuine primary without a Hillary loss.

A Hillary win is proof of cheating! She weighs as much as a duck!

That way when Hillary wins fair and square you can say she cheated to get it?

in the context of my support for Hillary.

You don't inspire people with that. I like Bernie and what you say won't change that. I support Hillary.
I am sorry Bernie attracts some of the people he does.

Now read my post again.

shit their pants daily. I LOVE THE GUY and would vote for him in a heartbeat!!!

If you wish to send hate mail to me, your opinion does not matter, so save your breath.

Must have been a server malfunction at their secret lair.

whomever I wish. It is too bad that DU has come to the point where it is not OK to say that I would rather have a
president who doesn't lie to us, that DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO WAR ON A DIME and that wants to put some money
back into the poor man's pockets.

We paid into social security and all seniors should expect a return.

The middle class use to run America....where are we now. Look in every town and see the strip malls that are empty. EMPTY.
Check our your food prices and the upscale prices of time warner and direct tv and your utilities.

If this is what you wall want to mess with for the next 8 years, vote for bush or vote for Hillary...doesn't make any difference.....
trump isn't the ideal person but he sure has given me some hope that he wlil not listen to
the lobbyists.....Our Presidents haven't run this country for well over 20 years......and the lobbyist love us stupid voters more each year.

I like it when people stand up for the little people and US SENIORS.

I don't feel I disrupt this forum, because I have a diffferent belief than others here.

If this is a HATE TRUMP form, I will look for another place ...cuz I am sick of looking at the bushes and the Clintons and now the
republican party and Fox news...think they still KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Is everyone blind?????

There is no republican party. There isn't going to be and I seriously doubt if Trump will win. But I can genuinely say I am enjoying
every bit of this political stuff on tv this year because I am getting LOTS OF LAUGHS...AND WE ALL NEED MORE LAUGHS.

This Forum is for primarily Democrats, though liberal-leaning Independants also post here. It looks like your stay may be a short one. Bye.

and i worked for the the democratic headquarters in Kansas City, Missouri on Burlington Avenue in the Northand
for 8 years during the Horrible years we had to put up with Bush. (this forum is for primarily democrats, what about for people
that are intelligent enough to listen, read, research and see if there is something better...or someone better among us who wants
what the simple middle class people want?)
What kind of a person do you think you are that you can tell me I am a republican therefore cannot post here? I am 70
years old and proud to be a democrat and always will be.

You KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME.....but i can tell you this.

I can change.....I won't vote for someone who want to stay in war zones for the next 40 years
I can vote for a president who won't send my grandchildren over to other countries to fight for oil, money and greed.
I won't vote for people that want to mess with social security and unemployment when we have put our
money into these things for years with the intent of getting it back.
I won't vote for someone who wants to make the rich richer at the middle class people's expense.
So if you think you are powerful enough to get me permanently booted out of here...do it....
I've been kicked out of better places, though not lately.
I will not vote for people that are told what to do by the Koch brothers..

and if you do..then I think this is going to be a sad sad world. There isn't a republican I would consider worthy
or qualified...but I like people who AREN'T AFRAID TO SPEAK THE TRUTH...WHO AREN'T AFRAID TO SPEAK UP AND SAY
WHAT THEY THINK EVEN IF IT ISN'T THE POPULAR THING TO DO. I admire people who fight for the under dogs and I want my grandchildren (all 16 of them) to have CAREERS, no jobs, --- benefits, social security, pensions, vacations, holidays and be able to retire before they
are 75.

That's all I want buddy, so if you got a problem with something I say - sorry we disagree...and we can just agree that we disagree...
that's kind of what I primarily thought these forums were for. Bye Bye... yourself

Anyone who thinks Trump is one of the good guys doesn't belong here.

I have.

Cancel the primaries and the conventions.

Let's have a show of hands right now.

Silver doesn't trust democracy.

Why do I even have to explain it to anyone?

I think Nate Silver is still in the 1990s

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