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BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:14 AM Sep 2015

Please don't shoot me for suggesting this, but after reading how the Bernie was received at LibertyU

It occurred to me that the Pope is visiting America.
Can you imagine if the Pope endorsed Bernie?

I know, I'm dreaming... I haven't like any Popes
since Pope John XXIII, but I kinda like this Pope.

Ok I can just hear the snide remarks coming....

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Please don't shoot me for suggesting this, but after reading how the Bernie was received at LibertyU (Original Post) BigBearJohn Sep 2015 OP
You are not alone. I read an article yesterday with the same thoughts. mmonk Sep 2015 #1
Here you go: mmonk Sep 2015 #2
Thanks! BigBearJohn Sep 2015 #4
You're welcome. It is becoming one of the moral issues of our time. mmonk Sep 2015 #6
Bernie speaks the truth. That's why people love him. BigBearJohn Sep 2015 #7
Also you brought up John XXIII. I have the same thoughts. mmonk Sep 2015 #8
I prefer to keep religion out of politics. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #3
Hey, if they can have Huckleberry, we can have the Pope BigBearJohn Sep 2015 #5
he won't (and shouldn't ) get involved in partisan politics MBS Sep 2015 #9
I am too. They won't have anywhere to hide. mmonk Sep 2015 #11
judging from his past remarks, MBS Sep 2015 #14
Pope can praise Sanders w/out formally endorsing him. Divernan Sep 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 Sep 2015 #16
I believe you're correct about the Pope on all counts. Cal33 Sep 2015 #17
We don't need the head of foreign theocracies getting involved in our races. Renew Deal Sep 2015 #10
Like "Prayer Breakfasts" and "Faith Based Initiatives". mmonk Sep 2015 #13
Only domestics? JackInGreen Sep 2015 #19
We don't need them involved getting involved either but Renew Deal Sep 2015 #21
Wishful thinking TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #12
I doubt the Pope would endorse a politician, and would prefer he not do so. n/t winter is coming Sep 2015 #15
It would be beneficial to the Sanders campaign. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #20
He's already endorsed helping the poor as good, and selfish hoarding of wealth as bad HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #22

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
7. Bernie speaks the truth. That's why people love him.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:38 AM
Sep 2015

The article you just linked to also includes this video:

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mmonk

(52,589 posts)
8. Also you brought up John XXIII. I have the same thoughts.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:46 AM
Sep 2015

I hope at least Bernie is on this Pope's radar.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. I prefer to keep religion out of politics.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:28 AM
Sep 2015

I don't even like pastors or priests endorsing specific candidates.

I'm fine with them giving socialistic Bible messages though, about helping the poor and the sick and so on.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
9. he won't (and shouldn't ) get involved in partisan politics
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:55 AM
Sep 2015

It's absolutely not the place of an international religious leader to endorse particular candidates. Nor is it the place even of US Catholic bishops to endorse particular American political candidates (not that that stopped toads like Cardinal Burke and other arch-conservative bishops from essentially doing so in 2004 )

Plus, it would be especially inappropriate, as well as politically stupid, to insert oneself in the PRIMARY election. Many Democratic politicians even stay out of endorsements in congressional primaries, especially if they're outside their home state (while still vowing to support the winner of those regional primaries).

However, I am very much looking forward to his giving Congress hell next week, and to watching the Republican Catholics squirm

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
11. I am too. They won't have anywhere to hide.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:59 AM
Sep 2015

I would like the Pope to at least hint at Sander's economic positions. That would be enough.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
14. judging from his past remarks,
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:04 AM
Sep 2015

I'm sure he will have lots to say about the poor and about unfair economies. I'm looking forward most of all to his giving them hell on climate change.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. Pope can praise Sanders w/out formally endorsing him.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:17 AM
Sep 2015

He can also quote Sanders statements re social policies on which Sanders & the Pope share opinions. I hope Pope Francis does just that.

Response to MBS (Reply #9)

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
12. Wishful thinking
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:01 AM
Sep 2015

As a head of state, albeit a tiny one, I don't believe the pope would want to be seen as interfere with another nation's election processes.

It would be fun it he did it anyway at the congressional address

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. It would be beneficial to the Sanders campaign.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:24 AM
Sep 2015

As someone who isn't big on Sanders I also don't get it. Why would anyone want the endorsement of one of the most powerful disseminators of hate and bigotry in the world? It is a thought exercise in political pandering. I understand his rhetoric matches with many Sanders supporters beliefs on economic justice, I believe they often see eye to eye on social issues as well. He is extremely socially conservative and should play no role in endorsements in the democratic side. I would have more respect for a Liz Chenney endorsement over that of the Pope. Yes, Liz is less socially conservative than the Pope. That's how far off the rails this is. The Pope is strongly opposed to my rights and the rights of people I care deeply about.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
22. He's already endorsed helping the poor as good, and selfish hoarding of wealth as bad
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 08:43 AM
Sep 2015

I don't think the Pope really needs to go any further toward endorsing Sanders.

Demonstration of the shared radicalism of Christianity -and- democratic socialism...shared empathy and interest in community is quite enough.






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