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ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:43 PM Jul 2012

After Romney in London, I think we have locked up...

the Presidency for Obama for another 4 years, (IF we can get people out to vote!)

How about strategies to keep the Senate and win back the House of Representatives?

Are there any places, groups, organizations, opportunities and strategies to assure this will happen, too?


Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to over-simplify the task of re-electing Obama. I know we still have workd to do in Sept, Oct, to make sure people can get to vote with an ID, and to make sure 18-28 year olds actually vote again or for the first time.

But is there a "think tank central" and the strategy army working hard to get the House back and keep the Senate, in all the key races?

Just asking for information, resources, ideas, all welcomed, to fight off the PAC's and their 100's of millions of dollars going after House and Senate.

Please advise, re-direct me to the right forum for this talk, or help us plan some ways to get all of these three challenges done, (1.re-elect Obama 2. Keep Senate 3 get back House)

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After Romney in London, I think we have locked up... (Original Post) ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 OP
You should be right. SoutherDem Jul 2012 #1
I think the final blow was when Michelle signed, sealed, and delivered the last, very well monmouth Jul 2012 #8
never assume you have it locked up - there are millions and millions yet to be spent DrDan Jul 2012 #2
Here's the thing about money, though... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #3
right after the convention, I think, we will see a barrage of commercials in the key states DrDan Jul 2012 #6
And so will the other extreme. AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #15
I am already seeing them here. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #22
there are also millions and millions of ejbr Jul 2012 #12
Thanks for all the humbling comments so far! ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #4
Senate? Gain, your kidding right? crimson77 Jul 2012 #5
Thanks for your views on your small universe in Boston ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #9
P.O? crimson77 Jul 2012 #11
Political Operative /nt demwing Jul 2012 #18
Humbled:) that you would think that. crimson77 Jul 2012 #19
Don't be demwing Jul 2012 #24
Riiiiight.... demwing Jul 2012 #17
I am just one guy, one guy who has followed this since I was 8. crimson77 Jul 2012 #20
Nope demwing Jul 2012 #23
wow . . . pass it around . . . share DrDan Jul 2012 #7
Your post was not at all helpful. ohgeewhiz Jul 2012 #10
It all boils down to 3 states cheezmaka Jul 2012 #14
I agree 100% crimson77 Jul 2012 #21
I definitely agree cheezmaka Jul 2012 #28
Voter apathy? AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #13
We have to push a "Vote the Whole Damned Ticket Blue" message demwing Jul 2012 #16
I never understood the concept of voting for Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #29
But how many times have you heard a President ask for it? demwing Jul 2012 #30
In a month this will be forgotten due to VP selection, conventions, etc... WI_DEM Jul 2012 #25
Nope. Americans have memory as long as the average fart. The media will make it go away. AlinPA Jul 2012 #26
here ya go... fired up... handmade34 Jul 2012 #27

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
8. I think the final blow was when Michelle signed, sealed, and delivered the last, very well
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:58 PM
Jul 2012

dressed and poised blow...

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
2. never assume you have it locked up - there are millions and millions yet to be spent
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jul 2012

and over 3 months for voters to forget

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Here's the thing about money, though...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jul 2012

Dollars do not actually equal votes. Honestly, truly, they don't. The best you can do is try to influence voters by spending on ad campaigns. There's no guarantee that that will work, and it can actually be scuttled by a competent competing campaign.

Basically, your campaign treasure chest is only as good as what you can buy with it. You could have billions to spend, but if you don't actually have any good material, you might as well just scrape change out of the couch.

The Romney campaign doesn't have anything. It's three months to the election as you say, and they've put out nothing of note. No good pro-Romney ads, not even any hitting anti-Obama ads. With all that money, you'd think there would have at least been an opening salvo, but there hasn't been.

And now we see that the Romney Campaign is so on the defensive, so off-balance, that they're actually barking out the overtly racist rhetoric and getting into (and losing) slapfights with another country. If they had something worth all that money, they would use it now.

Unless Romney's got something fucking magnificent to unleash on October 30th, we can honestly say he's not even competing at this point. This is Obama's game - all he's got to do is keep the benefits of his own presidency in people's minds, while we encourage everyone we know to go vote.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
6. right after the convention, I think, we will see a barrage of commercials in the key states
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jul 2012

this is not going to be a runaway . . . thinking it is will put the GOP back in the WH - this is going to be a close election

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
15. And so will the other extreme.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:40 AM
Jul 2012

In fact, if we keep telling everybody Obama is going to have a really tough time without voter suppression, stolen elections, etc. then guess what?
That too, might put the GOP back in the White House.

Truth is, this may indeed come somewhat close. But the GOP is going to have to be VERY successful with dirty tricks and and if they fail to steal just one swing state, they'll have no chance at all.....and if their attempts at dirty tricks fail......I can't say for sure there would be a landslide ala 1984. But, there would be a very realistic chance of Obama winning by a comfortable margin.

GoCubsGo

(32,091 posts)
22. I am already seeing them here.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jul 2012

And, I live in South Carolina, and get my TV out of Georgia, neither of which are "key" states.

 

ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
4. Thanks for all the humbling comments so far!
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:19 PM
Jul 2012

I really think this Presidential election is ours to lose, IF we do not get out 60 million people to the polls.

That's not an easy task, given voter ID laws in several states, given voter apathy from former Obama supporters, people who are disillusioned, voters that expected a full recovery from a great great recession in less than 4 years, or voters who have their own pet peeve.

Now on to the House and the Senate. The most damaging ads will go after any Democrat incumbent in each of those bodies.

We should gain 2-5 in the Senate, need to gain around 30 in the House.

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
5. Senate? Gain, your kidding right?
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:42 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:32 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't have any idea on the House or Presidency, We are going to get smoked in the Senate, maybe lose 8 seats. As a Boston guy, I can tell you that Elizabeth Warren is going to lose. My best friend in the world is a lesbian liberal, voting for Brown. My father lifelong card carrying brick layer union member, voting for Brown. I could go on, the only people who are going to vote for her are the Boston inner city and collar suburb people. That won't be enough to defeat Brown.

As an edit I will admit I forgot about the 5 towns out in western Mass.

 

ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
9. Thanks for your views on your small universe in Boston
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jul 2012

I know Obama is ahead by about 15 points in Mass over Romney.

Personally, I cannot understand a lesbian, nor a union member voting for Brown. He's so anti-gay, anti-union.

I think you're probably the most successful PO that ever posted here.

Warren and Brown are about equal in the polls, and it's only July. I follow this month by month. Warren edging up week over week, in the polls since May. You can see Brown losing support in all the major media from Provincetown to North Adams, read the media. Brown did nothing so far to help people in the state.

Brown has done absolutely NOTHING for Massachusetts, and, despite NY Mayor giving millions to Brown, who pledged NOT to accept PAC money, this NY Mayor fund raiser shows he cannot live up to a pledge.

Warren, she's got her problems, but about 300,000 more actual dollar donors than Brown does, all small givers, Brown, a couple thousand rich people donating.

So when, in the history of Massachusetts, did a Democratic Presidential candidate lose by more than a point since the 1800's? When, in the same year, was a Republican Senatorial candidate on the ballot and won over the Dem opponent? Go back as far into history as you want. Few times a Dem Presidential candidate lost to a Republican, and fewer still, when a Dem Presidential candidate won in the state, and the Republican Senatorial candidate won? Answer: ZERO times.

You make up good stuff, your lesbian sister must be one of six million people in Massachusetts voting against her own interests.

But back to the major issue, 34 Senate open seats, how are you helping us to win any of them with your absurd posts here?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
17. Riiiiight....
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 01:03 AM
Jul 2012

well that settles it.

Imaginary lesbians liberals and mythical middle class union members are all voting for Brown. How do we know? A person of unknown motives says so, that's why.


What other evidence does anyone ever need?

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
20. I am just one guy, one guy who has followed this since I was 8.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:41 AM
Jul 2012

I know what I am talking about when it comes to Massachusetts politics. Ray Flynn endorsed Brown, Mayor Menino has yet to endorse Elizabeth Warren. Now he may cave to pressure at some point, but for right now he hasn't. That should tell you something.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
23. Nope
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jul 2012

tells me nothing

"In addition to endorsing Republican George W. Bush over Al Gore in 2000, Flynn also endorsed Brown over Democrat Martha Coakley in the 2010 special election following the death of longtime Democratic U.S. Senator Edward Kennedy. "


http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/07/former_democratic_boston_mayor_1.html

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
7. wow . . . pass it around . . . share
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:44 PM
Jul 2012

there were posts like this last big election . . ."no way Rand Paul can beat a Dem".

 

ohgeewhiz

(193 posts)
10. Your post was not at all helpful.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jul 2012

So why did you bother to post here?

Are you a Republican with 14000 posts here?

If you are realistic, tell me why I should give up. If you are simply trying to embarrass a new poster, no thanks.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
14. It all boils down to 3 states
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jul 2012

If Obama wins Ohio and Florida, with all other battleground states being RED, he WINs. If Obama loses Florida, but wins Ohio & Pennsylvania, all he needs is ONE of the other battleground states (either Nevada, Colorado, or Iowa) and he STILL WINS with every other battleground state red. Obama still leads in polls currently in ALL battleground states. And with Romney's British bunder it improves Obama's chances slightly further. With everthing going on with Voter Purging and Voter ID laws we still shouldn't take anything for granted. I just hope we keep majority in the Senate, however I believe Obama's campaign has a "team" working on getting back control of the House.

 

crimson77

(305 posts)
21. I agree 100%
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 02:53 AM
Jul 2012

I say Florida is the starting off point. If Romney loses Florida its over, that's why Rubio will be the pick. If it's Portman or Pawlenty he is done. Say he wins Florida then the next states I look to is North Carolina and Virginia. If Romney wins NC, more then likely he wins VA. If he wins these 2, In my mind this election is over by about 10 EST.

It's funny I was looking at the past elections other then 72,80,84 and 08. All the elections have been fairly close.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
28. I definitely agree
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jul 2012

Florida is the KEY (no "pun" intended). I think this election may be close as well; like a "Championship Fight". I really hope I'm WRONG on this one...

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
13. Voter apathy?
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:34 AM
Jul 2012

I used to worry about that, too. Not anymore, it seems; if anything, some people who left the Obama camp are definitely starting to come back in droves, while Romney's camp is suffering the exact opposite has been for a long time.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
16. We have to push a "Vote the Whole Damned Ticket Blue" message
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jul 2012

and help give President Obama a congress that will say Go instead of No.

We have to double down on the rhetoric. If we believe that the Republican congress is sabotaging our economic recovery for political gain, we have to say so, and give America a choice and a path out.

We must take on the entire Republican party. To hell with one offing candidates here and there.

We.Must.Take.On.The.Entire.Republican.Party

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
29. I never understood the concept of voting for
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jul 2012

divided government. Why would somebody NOT want to vote a straight Dem or Repub ticket?

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
30. But how many times have you heard a President ask for it?
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jul 2012

"Give me a congress I can work with and I'll get the business of America DONE" - I think people would respond to that call to arms

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
25. In a month this will be forgotten due to VP selection, conventions, etc...
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jul 2012

The economy will continue to be a drag on Obama otherwise he would be leading in every poll by twenty points.

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