2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary won my heart today.when she came out so
forcefully about Keystone. Know if she comes out as forcefully against Wall Street, she will have us. Good luck, I hope she does. Please Hillary, can you do it?
djean111
(14,255 posts)It would be just for show.
jfern
(5,204 posts)in supporting reinstating Glass-Steagall
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)My fear is she will evolve again in a couple of weeks when this ploy does not work.
MindfulOne
(227 posts)The refusal to provide specific answers to a whole host of questions all this time was strategic.
As this idiocy drags on, expect similar strategically timed single topic announcements, timed to get the press and look all powerful and decisive.
Contrasted with Bernie, who has never been on the fence, will answer any question any time, and who doesn't treat us like a bunch of children or a bunch of gullible suckers.
We don't have time for this shit.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I, an old political wonk, never even thought of that but it makes perfect sense.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Go figure.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)as being an "impressive response"?
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Someones' Busted! The games played here are so fascinating. Must be hard to keep things straight though.
Thanks for catching this one.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)....
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Thanks.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)BaZinga!
Why are you replying to your own OP? It's not like you were adding anything to it...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of her explanation: She doesn't like the pipeline, no, but she doesn't pretend to consider it a major environmental disaster in itself. She wants that issue put to bed because it is distracting attention from the enormously larger problem of the exploding climate catastrophe.
The attitude of someone who needs to clear the decks and focus the troops in preparation for the real battle.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)she can bring it back to the table. To hell with the millions of Americans who depend on water from the Ogallala aquifer, which also provides irrigation for farming in 8 states (1/4 of US farmland). Its not a major environmental disaster waiting to happen, no. How many Transcanada pipelines have leaked? All of them?
IF she's in office. God help us.
(ETA: What I wrote above about what I believe Hillary will do if elected is my opinion on an opinion board.)
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Its called logical reasoning, deductive reasoning, or simply my opinion on a discussion board. I'll amend my post to help make that clear.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Therefore I oppose the distraction
QED
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)and not something to 'sweep the decks of' temporarily so that a candidate doesn't have to 'deal' with it until, as she said EARLIER, AFTER the election. That is what people want to know about presidential candidates, where they actually stand on major issues like this.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Calling it a "distraction" allows her to put it back in later as part of a trade of some kind. Whether that trade is really a good idea or environmentally beneficial is an open question.
I prefer being solidly and directly against it.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)That sounds like a way of downplaying it to me and giving herself wiggle room. I just don't trust her.
cali
(114,904 posts)riversedge
(70,243 posts)?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)She's a liar.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I really can't give her any credit for it. I'm glad she evolved again, but some of the other candidates in this race opposed it from the beginning. They're the ones who will get my props.
riversedge
(70,243 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...it's also about who is consistent. If you look at that metric, Bernie Sanders wins hands down, it's no contest. He is on the right side of the issues I care about, and he has not had to change is positions.
If Hillary Clinton had only changed her positions on a couple of issues, that would be one thing. But that is not the case. Her whole M.O. is to "evolve" when it is convenient to do so -- i.e., when the political winds have changed.
I don't hate Clinton although I don't really like her that much either. I will almost certainly vote for her if she is the Democratic nominee -- I sure as hell don't want a Republican lunatic in the White House, and their candidates this year are all lunatics as far as I can tell. But dayum, I hope Bernie gets the nomination. I would so much rather have him as our President than another 3rd Way politician.
Go Bernie Go!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)his supporters like to wear, masquerading as political commentary.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)riversedge
(70,243 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)anything at all. Doesn't matter what camp you might be in.
Simply amazing and stupifying.
DU sure is not the place it used to be long time ago.
I want my DU back.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and I seriously don't remember you. And primaries always look like this on DU or weren't you here in 2008? Besides, in case you haven't noticed, in 2015, we're a hair's width away from storming the fucking Bastille.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)trying to win, or how the camps interact
people get frustrated with vagueness
Zorra
(27,670 posts)policies of unimpeded environmental destruction for profit.
Wankle Ronnie
(66 posts)The subject will be revisited later.
So, I'm not convinced.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)That announcement.Hillary will pretend to be a populist style candidate but yet her rhetoric will only go as far as her Wall St. Mafia contributors will allow. I don't believe her BS.
My position would be the same if she was running unopposed
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)http://time.com/4045344/hillary-clinton-keystone-pipeline-decision/
I'm glad she finally decided to say she opposes the pipeline but she's playing catch up.