so they can forget about Sanders.

the internals are looking REALLY bad for Hillary and the Masters are calling in backup though you make an excellent point.

that the .01% DOESN'T own the media as well as both political parties? Well, as a Blind Party Loyalist, I'm sure you'll disagree with that last part but the fact that there has been almost no legislation in the last 30 years that has benefitted the populace should tell you what is evident to the rest of us.

To reporters he makes them have to ask questions about policy (which they are very, very, bad at)

To the editors, they worry about candidates that don't play the insider media game. They prefer a swarm of consultants and media people that will occasionally throw them little tidbits on and off the record.

To the owners he is threatening due to his policy positions.

The media doesn't like Bernie and does very scant reporting on him, particularly when you compare coverage of Bernie versus Trump.

as either Clinton or Biden would on media advertising.

are upset about it is his campaign style. Truth hurts.

Learn the difference.

You're the only one that interpreted it as fact.

I do not think they have the ability to dictate to major corporations how they are to act. Specially universally as is happening with the inclusion of Biden.

This is easier than people think. Remove Bidens name and Clinton is even more of a runaway. That does absolutely no good for the corporate media. What the DNC has to do with this is beyond me. I thought the meme was that they want Hillary. Including Biden like this only makes it look like there is actually a current race, when there isn't. This whole argument that the corporate media is in bed with the democrats goes against decades of knowledge about how they operate. You have just made the argument that the media is in collusion with the left wing even though we fully know they are in bed with conservatives overall. You are attempting to shift the shady actions of corporate media on to the democratic party. I know another group of people who have spent decades trying to do the exact same thing. Because of those unethical and fabricated memes, many people in this country really do think the media is left wing. Don't help them by saying they are colluding with the DNC with absolutely nothing to back you up. Their bottom line is why they are doing it. Without Biden, there is no close race. It is about the all mighty dollar to them. They benefit from a republican in the white house. It expands their bottom line.

The "should I or shouldn't I run, 'game'", is destabilizing for the Democratic primary. There was also talk a week or two ago that Biden may not decide until November, which if true only puts more emphasis why in my view he shouldn't run.

The garbage how Hillary's campaign is falling apart, is just that, garbage.

Fully agree. It is a complete fabrication. If Sanders were falling apart like Clinton, he would be the runaway frontrunner. Yet it is Clinton who is in that position. Many Sanders supporters haven't thought this all the way through. If Biden doesn't enter, and his name is removed from the polls, Hillary is going to get a full week on the news cycle at the shock that Biden support goes to her two to one. It will be called a plot by the establishment to enshrine Clinton as the frontrunner.

enter the race in a recent interview, that speaks volumes

It's not just for Teabaggers anymore.

It holds no bearing on anything that was said. You might have responded to the wrong person. In order for your comment to pertain to my post, you would have to believe in a conspiracy, without any evidence, that involves thousands and thousands of people. Pretty sure you posted in the wrong place.

I can't... but maybe someone can find an example
of this to jog my memory.

For example many wanted Gore to run in 2008 but he wasn't included in polls

This Biden thing is being pushed by something more than the DNC

It does screw up the data in trying to read what is really going on with people that are not running.
Like I said I hadn't seen this before in studying the history of elections

Polls, I think with the advent of the cell phone has lost a lot of reliability and validity so be it for anyone of your choice take them with a grain of salt.

Harris polling use to have tons of people who worked for them who pounded the pavement in the beginning to get real samples, many people had party lines in the beginning or no phones at all. Then there was a golden age of everyone having a private phone and no law on the books for solicitation of products, insurance or candidates. Remember those calls at dinnertime?

That ended in the late 90's I think? Then the growth of cell phones.

Anyway this Biden thing is curiouser and curiouser as Alice said..

If you take Biden out, Clinton's lead grows. So, how would including him make Clinton's lead look bigger?

I should have read the whole thread.



Sid

Is she showing up in recent polls? Or are you talking about polls done before half the current field even entered the race?

Sid

name an election where a list of declared candidates are running and a non declared ringer is thrown into the mix.

Yes we're being manipulated; that's how these polls work. 'Someone' has decided to include Biden in all of the national polls recently, so yes, it seems 'someone' really wants a Hillary vs Biden race. Maybe the same 'someone' who doesn't want Sanders to be a serious candidate.

No big surprise there.

Note how only the "popularity" aspect of the candidates is ever discussed on DU, and NEVER the actual policy positions of the candidates. Why do you think that is?

the other establishment candidates. Those who aren't supporting any of the establishment offerings this election season are already tuned in to Bernie; or will be.

We got this other cola but we don't make as much money off of it ............

of if Bernie gets 40% of the electorate, and Hillary and Biden each end up getting 30%, that, yet again, the centrists should get one of their candidates as the nominee, likening it to two adults wanting to eat somewhere nice and 3 kids wanting each to go to different pizza places. They suggested the 'fair' thing to do would be to go for pizza, since it's 3-2 in aggregate, but I was thinking, since when do kids get to outvote adults?

Seem to recall most of the polls including him till he ruled it out.

I wish Biden would make up his mind, but there's no rushing some decisions.

If a polling organization such as PPP wants to include Biden, then that's their prerogative.

It has nothing to do with the DNC.

Polls are polls. They will change many times. I pay little attention to them.

for variety?