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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 03:12 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton needs to address the racist undertones of her 2008 campaign



Black Lives Matter, the advocacy group for black interests, has gotten the attention of the Democratic presidential candidates, who are reportedly scrambling to reach out to the movement. Even heavy favorite Hillary Clinton is getting in on it, addressing the movement in a Q&A session on Facebook, where she checked most of the right boxes.

DeRay McKesson, one of the movement's leaders, wrote on Twitter that the post was "solid." But he also noted that she had two days to work on it, and did not attend the liberal forum Netroots Nation, unlike her challengers Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley, who flailed in front of activists from Black Lives Matter.

McKesson is right to be suspicious. Hillary Clinton's record on race is not great. If she wishes to earn some trust on issues of racial justice, a good place to start would be with the distinctly racist undertones of her 2008 campaign against Barack Obama.

As the first primaries got underway in 2008, and Obama began to slowly pull ahead, the Clinton camp resorted to increasingly blatant race- and Muslim-baiting. It started in February, when Louis Farrakhan, the head of the Nation of Islam, endorsed Obama in a sermon. In a debate a couple days later, moderator Tim Russert repeatedly pressed Obama on the issue, who responded with repeated reassurances that he did not ask for the endorsement, did not accept it, and in fact was not a deranged anti-Semite. That wasn't enough for Clinton, who demanded that Obama "denounce" Farrakhan, which he did.

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http://theweek.com/articles/567774/hillary-clinton-needs-address-racist-undertones-2008-campaign
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Hillary Clinton needs to address the racist undertones of her 2008 campaign (Original Post) cali Sep 2015 OP
Some folks seem to have amnesia Senator Tankerbell Sep 2015 #1
Another fond memory Senator Tankerbell Sep 2015 #2
Old article - Here is today's news: Hillary Clinton Will Sit Down With Black Lives Matter Activists OKNancy Sep 2015 #3
hardly old. cali Sep 2015 #6
That's nice. But sheds to address HER racist campaign. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #16
K&R Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #4
She needs to address her anti-LGBT statements. nichomachus Sep 2015 #5
RIGHT! Since we are now digging up voting records as old as 17 1998... n/t Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #19
I forgot that there was a statute of limitations nichomachus Sep 2015 #20
or what? wyldwolf Sep 2015 #7
Does this mean you're not in favor of Hillary addressing her racism? DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #17
. Metric System Sep 2015 #8
nope. just tired of the hypocritical obsession of Clinton supporters cali Sep 2015 #9
Her employment of the Southern Strategy in '08 is most aggravating. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #10
And of her 2016 campaign Doctor_J Sep 2015 #11
This is why I am lukewarm to her campaign. Nedsdag Sep 2015 #12
2008 campaign??? Really? Because of some supporter's actions? Is Bernie to blame for all the kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #13
I remember that 2008 campaign and it needs addressed. It was only seven years ago and roguevalley Sep 2015 #18
She has zero need to address that aspect of the '08 campaign. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #14
2 days? jfern Sep 2015 #15
No she doesn't. zappaman Sep 2015 #21
No She doesn't need to address any 'problems' with her 2008 campaign. Let's move foward for once. Sunlei Sep 2015 #22
No, she doesn't need to address her racist overtones John Poet Sep 2015 #23
This is 2015, going into the 2016 election cycle. George II Sep 2015 #24

Senator Tankerbell

(316 posts)
2. Another fond memory
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 03:44 PM
Sep 2015
CLINTON: I think in addition to the questions about Reverend Wright and what he said and when he said it, and for whatever reason he might have said these things, there were so many different variations on the explanations that we heard.

And it is something that I think deserves further exploration because clearly, what we've got to figure out is how we're going to bring people together in a way that overcomes the anger, overcomes the divisiveness and whatever bitterness there may be out there. You know?

It is clear that, as leaders, we have a choice who we associate with and who we apparently give some kind of seal of approval to. And I think that it wasn't only the specific remarks but some of the relationships with Reverend Farrakhan, with giving the church bulletin over to the leader of Hamas, to put a message in.

You know, these are problems. And they raise questions in people's minds. And, so, this is a legitimate area, as everything is, when we run for office, for people to be exploring and trying to find answers.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/story?id=4670271&page=1

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
5. She needs to address her anti-LGBT statements.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 03:56 PM
Sep 2015

But then, as Bill said, Hillary just isn't comfortable around gay people.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
20. I forgot that there was a statute of limitations
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:01 AM
Sep 2015

Unlike Hillary supporters, I prefer to judge a candidate on their past words and actions, rather than their bullshit promises about what they'll do tomorrow, especially when what they promise is in direct opposition to what they have actually done in the past.

Hillary supporters live in a fantasy dream world -- not the real world.

By the way, her anti-LGBT statements are much more recent than 1998.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. Her employment of the Southern Strategy in '08 is most aggravating.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015

And, by the way, Rev. Wright was correct about most everything he got in trouble for saying.

Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
12. This is why I am lukewarm to her campaign.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 07:52 PM
Sep 2015

I haven't forgotten all the things that she and her husband said.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
13. 2008 campaign??? Really? Because of some supporter's actions? Is Bernie to blame for all the
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

shit his supporters are throwing up against the wall?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
18. I remember that 2008 campaign and it needs addressed. It was only seven years ago and
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:12 AM
Sep 2015

it needs discussed. If she can demand a full investigation of Farrakhan, then this is reasonable. She hasn't exactly covered herself with glory.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. She has zero need to address that aspect of the '08 campaign.
Wed Sep 23, 2015, 10:47 PM
Sep 2015

What she does have to do is to keep putting out progressive policies bringing us in the direction of a more equitable and just society. All three of our most discussed candidates are doing well in this area, in my opinion, with O'Malley leading the way.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. No She doesn't need to address any 'problems' with her 2008 campaign. Let's move foward for once.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:45 AM
Sep 2015

The President seems to have 'forgiven' Mrs. Clinton and placed a very high level of trust in her. Senator Sanders likes her too.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
23. No, she doesn't need to address her racist overtones
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

from 2008.

Her supporters don't have any problem with her racist overtones from 2008.

Neither do "hardworking white people" who support her.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. This is 2015, going into the 2016 election cycle.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:23 PM
Sep 2015

WHY must Clinton address these fictional "racial undertones" of her 2008 campaign?

Talk about raising the "race card"! Interestingly even Senator Sanders has not brought up this issue, either about Clinton's 2008 campaign or any implied (although not real) "racial undertones".

I see once again the faux issue of Clinton not attending NRN has reared it's ugly head, so once again it needs to be pointed out that she already had a very important previous engagement in the state where her husband was Governor for a decade, and one that is currently "red" but could very easily be turned "blue" again.

Funny thing - Obama has never called Clinton's 2008 campaign "racist", so why now almost 8 years later are those who oppose her nomination dragging it up, partucularly with an OPINION piece that is more than two months old?

Yeah, these two reallly don't like each other (picture accompanying the 2-month old blog):

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