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Latest Reuters poll has Bernie Sanders closing in on Hillary Clinton nationally (Original Post) Catherina Sep 2015 OP
What happens if you take Biden out? RandySF Sep 2015 #1
Yeah, I've been wondering why he's in there anyway. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #2
I think he feels that he has some good years left in him. RandySF Sep 2015 #4
I agree with you. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #5
"W paints his feet in the bath." Thanks for that laugh. merrily Sep 2015 #15
Their poll doesn't have a filter for that unfortunately n/t Catherina Sep 2015 #3
Hillary is so far in the lead she won't even see Bernie workinclasszero Sep 2015 #12
5 points isn't that far Lordquinton Sep 2015 #20
^^^This^^^ NowSam Sep 2015 #21
<3 Lordquinton Sep 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #22
Just a matter of time FreakinDJ Sep 2015 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #7
That's within striking distance. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #8
Those started a while back, IMO. merrily Sep 2015 #16
But they weren't so overt yet, back then. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #26
I feel like I live in two separate realities. A recent CNN poll being pushed very hard here was Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #9
This may help stop the spinning: merrily Sep 2015 #17
I'm getting whiplash Armstead Sep 2015 #18
These graphs are believable in that they... tex-wyo-dem Sep 2015 #10
If we can GOTV, those "wouldn't votes" will be going to Bernie. cui bono Sep 2015 #11
+1000 couldn't agree more! tex-wyo-dem Sep 2015 #13
I love it. Gillibrand. Geez, the candidacy of a very well-known female establishment Dem merrily Sep 2015 #14
This is BS-The Graph is Not Filtered by Likely Democratic Voters Stallion Sep 2015 #19
Why is Biden in this..... Geronimoe Sep 2015 #23
Those "wouldn't vote" are tracking Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #25

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
2. Yeah, I've been wondering why he's in there anyway.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:21 AM
Sep 2015

The only reason I can think of is that the establishment is getting nervous about Clinton. Please don't take offense, I know you're a Clinton supporter, but that is the only reason I can think of, because he hasn't decided yet and he's clearly getting some pressure from the powers that be.

No one really wants Bernie, apparently.

RandySF

(58,884 posts)
4. I think he feels that he has some good years left in him.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:38 AM
Sep 2015

I will take him at his word that he wants to be president, but I also hate to see good presidents and VP's sent off to civilian life when they still have sound minds and bodies to contribute. For example, and everyone scoffs at this, I would LOVE to see Obama elected Mayor of Chicago, or Biden serve on SCOTUS, or even back in the Senate if a presidential run doesn't work out for him.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
5. I agree with you.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 12:45 AM
Sep 2015

I've often wondered what Obama will do after he leaves office. I mean, what do you do after you've been POTUS? You know, W paints his feet in the bath. HW is still supporting the Deep State and new world order he spoke of. Clinton got filthy rich with his foundation and in public speaking engagements. But look at Jimmy Carter. Not a great president, but definitely a great man.

Obama will only be 55 when he leaves office.

As to Biden, it would be good if he went back to the Senate, though I don't agree with everything he voted for. Still, the guy really does have a good heart.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. "W paints his feet in the bath." Thanks for that laugh.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:26 AM
Sep 2015

As Colbert's character used to say sometimes, "It's funny 'cause it's true."

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Hillary is so far in the lead she won't even see Bernie
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:01 AM
Sep 2015

in her rear view mirror, which is whats going to happen.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
24. <3
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:24 AM
Sep 2015

I always get this kind of response in Bernie threads, rarely something back from whoever I responded to.

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #12)

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
9. I feel like I live in two separate realities. A recent CNN poll being pushed very hard here was
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:44 AM
Sep 2015

being used as evidence of a Hillary bounce and a Bernie decline. Now I see this. My head is starting to spin.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
10. These graphs are believable in that they...
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:45 AM
Sep 2015

Pretty much mirror the trend lines of Iowa and NH polls. The trends definitely favor Bernie where he has intercected Hillary in Iowa and surpassed her in NH, and appear to be in the same course nationally.

National polls are dodgy at this point, but the overall trend is telling.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
11. If we can GOTV, those "wouldn't votes" will be going to Bernie.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 01:56 AM
Sep 2015

If you're not inclined to vote, the same old same old with so much negative baggage certainly isn't going to inspire you to want to get out there and vote. But someone like Bernie, who is fresh and authentic and fighting for your well being, well he can get the "wouldn't votes" excited enough to change their minds.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. I love it. Gillibrand. Geez, the candidacy of a very well-known female establishment Dem
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:16 AM
Sep 2015

may be losing ground. Let's run another female establishment Dem, who is much less well-known. Yeah, that's the ticket!

Talk about tone deaf.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
19. This is BS-The Graph is Not Filtered by Likely Democratic Voters
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 02:50 AM
Sep 2015

I've got this link on my favorites

its not even close when you filter for likely Democratic Primary voters

Hillary 38%
Sanders 23%

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
23. Why is Biden in this.....
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:07 AM
Sep 2015

Notice that Biden and Hillary go up and down together and Bernie does the opposite.

This indicates that Bernie will gain a lot if Biden isn't counted. Of course life in much more complicated.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
25. Those "wouldn't vote" are tracking Hillary....
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 03:44 AM
Sep 2015

They seem to be people who are former Hillary supporters who don't want her anymore but don't seem to be crossovers to anyone else. When her numbers go up, no votes go down and vice-versa.

Biden hasn't gotten a bump either. So much for continuing the Obama administration policies under his veep.

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