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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:17 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton's 5 takes on the Keystone Pipeline

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/politics/hillary-clinton-keystone-pipeline-history/index.html


Washington (CNN)—Hillary Clinton moved from being "inclined" to support the controversial Keystone XL pipeline to announcing Tuesday that she'd oppose it. The move that comes as the former secretary of state seeks the Democratic presidential nomination and felt pressure from rival candidates as well as environmentalists and progressives.

Here's how she got to Tuesday:

October 2010: We're "inclined" to back it

"We haven't finish all of the analysis," Clinton, then secretary of state, told the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco. "So as I say, we've not yet signed off on it. But we are inclined to do so and we are for several reasons."
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Hillary Clinton's 5 takes on the Keystone Pipeline (Original Post) magical thyme Sep 2015 OP
Great minds put a lot of thought into important issues before acting. oasis Sep 2015 #1
And I am glad of that ('next'=HRC) riversedge Sep 2015 #3
Try to save the planet or further enrich energy companies? Broward Sep 2015 #4
No voluminous environmental reports to go over? No research? oasis Sep 2015 #6
yeah that was a hard one to figure out. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #7
For a super busy person, yes. Internet posters, maybe not. oasis Sep 2015 #10
no brainer. but then, it also keeps the cock brothers from making a zillion $ roguevalley Sep 2015 #17
If the Koch Brothers were telling the truth oasis Sep 2015 #19
LOL wow. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #26
It took her five years AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #8
She had some sort of deadline? oasis Sep 2015 #11
Five years AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #12
I guess there was no deadline. <nt> oasis Sep 2015 #13
Half a decade AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #14
"Under pressure" sez you. She jumped ahead of the time oasis Sep 2015 #15
"Under pressure" AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #16
Back to post #1, great minds etc.. As for adopting oasis Sep 2015 #18
You mean like when she acted the previous 4 times? jeff47 Sep 2015 #20
Gimme a break already. Would you call any of her first 4 oasis Sep 2015 #22
I wouldn't call her 5th one a solid commitment to oppose it. jeff47 Sep 2015 #25
And thank goodness! leftofcool Sep 2015 #21
Ya know, I'm beginning to think some here are pissed oasis Sep 2015 #23
Reminds me of Watergate, when Ron Ziegler, hifiguy Sep 2015 #2
Reminds me of Brett Maverick whitling a piece of wood oasis Sep 2015 #5
She seemed to oppose talking about it more than the pipeline itself n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #9
one position Hillary will never go back on olddots Sep 2015 #24

oasis

(49,388 posts)
1. Great minds put a lot of thought into important issues before acting.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sep 2015

"Hillary Makes Snap Judgement" you'll never see that headline associated with our next president.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
4. Try to save the planet or further enrich energy companies?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:43 PM
Sep 2015

The answer is straightforward. Not much thought required at all.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
6. No voluminous environmental reports to go over? No research?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sep 2015

Mind you, she already has a full plate.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
17. no brainer. but then, it also keeps the cock brothers from making a zillion $
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:41 PM
Sep 2015

and she has to consider that carefully because the zillionaires have said they would be happy with Jeb or her.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
19. If the Koch Brothers were telling the truth
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:58 PM
Sep 2015

they won't spend a ton of money trying to defeat Hillary. I see that as a good thing.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
15. "Under pressure" sez you. She jumped ahead of the time
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
Sep 2015

She said she was going to announce.

Hillary's going to do things her way, in her time. You might as well get used to it.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
16. "Under pressure"
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:38 PM
Sep 2015

She does this with every issue. Takes multiple conflicting positions over a period of years or decades, then when pressure to take a meaningful stance mounts, she relents and adopts Sanders position.

This is the pattern.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
18. Back to post #1, great minds etc.. As for adopting
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 05:52 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie's position on anything, there are many who opposed the pipeline. I guess she's adopting their position as well.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
20. You mean like when she acted the previous 4 times?
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 09:13 PM
Sep 2015

Her most current statement is not her first "act".

oasis

(49,388 posts)
22. Gimme a break already. Would you call any of her first 4
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:08 PM
Sep 2015

statements on the matter a solid commitment for, or against the pipeline?

Perhaps she should indicate her opposition to the pipeline in skywriting to make sure everyone gets it.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. I wouldn't call her 5th one a solid commitment to oppose it.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:01 AM
Sep 2015

It's a "at this time" statement. That leaves a wide opening for her to change in the future.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
23. Ya know, I'm beginning to think some here are pissed
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 11:12 PM
Sep 2015

because Hillary opposed the pipeline. I wonder why?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. Reminds me of Watergate, when Ron Ziegler,
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:34 PM
Sep 2015

Nixon's press secretary, would come out and say that "the president's previous statements are now inoperative."

oasis

(49,388 posts)
5. Reminds me of Brett Maverick whitling a piece of wood
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

while sitting in a rocking chair. "I'm working on it" he would tell passersby who asked him repeatedly how he would get the bad guys. By the end of the episode, justice was served.

Hillary will continue to do it her way.







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