You should edit or self delete that reply.

Not sure why you'd want to repost it.

I doubt sunlight will be a remedy in this instance (see the even-worse double-down reply downthread).

I wasn't sure the post would get hidden, or even that there would be an alert. Good on the alerter and jury.

they should all respect, albeit grudgingly. And admit it, she looks pretty good, right?

This is not necessary. Support whomever you want in the primary but can we at least try to avoid this crap?

There are people who think that having a 21-year-old intern suck your cock in the Oval Office is disgusting. This is an ethically bankrupt family.

Means HRC is "ethically bankrupt?" That's your defense?

but apparently to some yes, this type of comparison of a spouse's behavior is definitely more than fair game.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251621588

but was marveling at the massive show of moral purity, even down to the "sunlight" quote, given what was revealed about their off-site website where they trash DUers. Almost a parody of hypocrisy.

But your link shows how deep the hypocrisy goes.

Better to laugh, I guess...

at the projection, the hypocrisy, and the poor me victim spiel on display at DU by a very small but vocal group of hyper-partisans.

to clean out that Freeperesque sewer.

It's really getting silly. Right off the deep end, really.

It's a good ad and she goes after the Republicans. And you complain. Pretty sad.

make a living for their families.

Or it shouldn't be.

That's the problem with the capitalist mindset. People always trying to get ahead of each other, but we're all falling behind.

When everyone is fighting to get ahead we all end up racing to the bottom.

We need less getting ahead and more advancing together. Less competing, more solidarity.

Instead of worrying about getting ahead, we should ask what is the sustainable path forward that will preserve the earth for future generations, and how can we all thrive by working together.

I think it means getting ahead of your budget - keeping your financial head above water, that sort of thing.

That said, it's a nice ad with a good message - that regular people need help, but she didn't say how she plans to do it.

So that means somebody else is on the bottom.

Mrs. Clinton is selling a message of social mobility, building ladders for people to move up in the pig pile. It's just like how companies advertise "opportunities for advancement".

It just can't be a reality for most people. There will always be many people on the bottom of the pyramid. Unless we have some fully revolutionary social changes. I don't expect any candidate to make those changes, but I also don't want to be fed false hopes about "opportunity for advancement".

Instead of addressing income inequality this ad is trying to change the subject to ladders of opportunity. And we've been around this block before: Income inequality is out, "ladders of opportunity" is in.

at kissing up and kicking down."

Worked for her, I s'pose.

Oops no because they only need like 2 assistant managers.

The major problem we need to focus on is making sure the people on the bottom get paid enough to live a decent life.

...of where we are at. It is not about competition with others. Each of us knows what our load is and whether we are moving ahead of it or falling behind. Too many of us feel that when we manage to get a little leeway and lighten our load that something else knocks us back and we suddenly find ourselves struggling even harder. An example may be that we get a small increase in income only to find that our utility bills increase, too, and that our rent goes up.
The clincher is it is stressful and many of us have others that depend on us. We feel responsible for the burdens of our children...of that they often have to go without and do not understand why.

She's too far Right to get it. She does not represent the rest of us.

You said it very well.

for them it is about how many throats you have to step on to get what you want.

the term getting ahead can mean that many are left behind

That's a new one, thanks.

#feelthebern

And this is a capitalist society. It has been in a few papers. We need to make sure the system is fair and working right. That is what Bernie is for, not communism.

I'm desperately trying to GET AHEAD of Bernie on these positions...

by the consequences of its actions.

How about seriously helping those who find themselves trapped under "odious" debt and preventing it (predatory lending, outright lies about job prospects, and so on) from happening again?

Can't see the pic.

Here's an excerpt :

Debt won't hold you back

- If you have student debt, you will be able to refinance your loans at current rates, with an estimated 25 million borrowers receving debt relief. Typical borrowers could save $2,000 over the life of their loans.

Cheers!

Wonder what chained-in-the-dungeon Goldman intern came up with that.

Mother of dog.

I was right. Bupkis.

Just like you have to already have health insurance for her bold and noble health care plan to affect you.

Profits come first. If they can slightly lessen the pain the profits cause, then it's a great plan

doesn't it?

Some may save up to 2k over their entire loan repayment!!!

Brings a tear to me eye.

That's real savings! That's almost 17 big ones a month - certainly enough to secure a mortgage with and enough leftover to take the kids out for pizza!

I think it reflects the gravitas she would bring to the Presidency.

I hope she can produce many more similarly produced!

...kind of like what we got with Ronald Reagan.

Good times, good times...

She's perfectly coiffed, sitting in the corner of a mansion somewhere, with standard feel-good music tinkling while she talks about making the economy work less well for people like her.

Maybe this ad tested well, but I believe there's a disconnect between the words and the message.

is like a glossy photo in a mag,What is she saying vast majority ?it seems as though she is suggesting austerity for extremely poor folks.Refinance student debt thats a laugh one of the issues is Bailing out wall street not main street,This warm and fuzzy stuff is sweet ,but lukewarm.

At 0:06 seconds (and later), she looks like she's sitting on a multi-million dollar studio, interior designed by teams of professionals. Interspersed with footage of a minority female in a hardhat.

She nuzzles her way in with her safe, reliable "woman message," then tries to broaden it to approximate Bernie's genuine, lifelong concern for working Americans of all genders and stripes. It's not like she can feel, through her wealth-infused insulation, what life is like for the rest of us. Her production crew has seen the crowds, they've seen "what works," and they'll take anything they can get, even if they don't, for one minute, mean it.

Too bad she comes across forced and insincere, as always. Wonder how many takes they needed to cobble this one together?

But the worst, the absolute worst, is the slogan "Get Ahead." It betrays her basic, oligarchic, rightwing position that life is a contest and the point is to beat out the other guy. To GET. AHEAD. To leave the others behind.

We should not let this woman change what it means, or used to mean, to be a Democrat. Gawd we can do better. We have to do better.

It's becoming laughable.

Commercials frequently use what's known as "value exchange" to make you feel good about furthering the advertiser's own narrow self-interest.

By associating a pristine wildlife refuge with a dirty fossil fuel provider or a group of bikini-clad young women with a calorie-laden alcoholic beverage, they short-circuit rational thinking and trigger a reward response, making you more likely to support them even though it may be contrary to your own interests or the interests of society at large.

I'm voting for Hillary because -- awwwwww! -- I think babies are cute!

...but whatever turns you on, I guess.

Posted my clumsy comment before reading the thread, and now I am so proud of the insight and intelligence shown by fellow Bernie supporters. It's a delightful fringe benefit of supporting him.

after leaving the WH "dead broke" to a personal net worth of $22 million in just 15 years.
Source: http://getnetworth.net/hillary-clinton-net-worth/

We should all "get ahead" like that.

She knows what it's like to have the bottom drop out of your finances until you're down to your last two houses.

I must be psychic.

Wave your arms! Be animated! Be real! Draw people in!

"Not just for those at the top" yada yada yada.

Too bad that nobody's buying it.

own those words. Lots of folks use those words-phrases.

Was she filmed in her home office in Chappaqua?



I thought you might know, considering you salon with her and all.

Otherwise, great ad.

It's hard to be more specific on issues than that is in 30 seconds. There's nothing she said that I'm not in favor of. Not as hard hitting on the wealth shift as I would like however - there are bolder prescriptions out there, they just (for now at least) aren't hers. Things like increasing social security...

Maybe it's the result of eating far too much LSD but she comes across as sooooooooooo fake. Every sentence is forced and choppy. It's almost robotic.