several reasons. Standard campaign dynamics. If Biden gets in, his ratings will drop too before rising again.

You know, Jfern, HRC is only the other candidate. Bernie's big enemies don't want him or her elected.

because surely that affects them.

Here's to our next POTUS. Hillary Clinton!

he has a chance to win the nomination

Once Biden announces, one way or the other, things will reset. Poll numbers will change and we will get a better idea of where the race really stands.

As for now, all these polls are kinda silly. All we can really do is see long term trends. Trying to nail things down and getting all excited about every poll that tells you what you want to hear is just silly. This goes for supporters of both Bernie and Hillary. We have not even had one debate yet. It looks like it may be Christmas season before we get a clear idea of what is really going on.


As for now, all we can do is watch the long term trends.

Without Biden included it would destroy the entire media narrative of Hillary sinking. All I'm saying is, prepare to be disappointed when they stop polling Biden.

Biden is only up about 6% - 8%. Hillary is down more like 20%.

Most of the Biden support would go to Hillary, but not all of it. Bernie would get some, we can argue about how much but that would get us nowhere.

Joe's numbers are obscuring everything, but Hillary would still be sinking even if he had already announced that he was not running.

Yes, she's lower than the 60% starting point, but take Biden out and she's still pretty dame close to 60%, which is huge. Again, prepare for the media narrative to be destroyed.

Anyways, there is no need to obsess about this now. Things will sort themselves out.

reasons for people to support their candidate rather that rehash right wing talking points about Hillary because people don't give a rat's ass about emails.

You would need an third party neutral source for your information and I doubt you could do that and I don't mean the MSM.

She knows most world leaders having been Secretsry of State and would be more effective than Bernie

Iraq and Afghanistan. This experience she had is even more a reason to not want her in the presidency.

Senators and would be better suited than Bernie in forming policy that will be supported by the Senate.

no learning curve as President. Also her husband was President which is an asset no one else could have.

Or a doctor's wife would make a good doctor. Or whatever. It's simply not true. Being the spouse may help you understand general activity, I'm sure she could find the nearest bathroom for instance, but it gives her no understanding or ability to run the country.

graduating from law school working for women and families

And ministering to families. Still doesn't make him a good president.

No one likes a bully.

Except, apparently, on the internet....

liberals at least seeing through the email smokescreen.

That's mind boggling.

nuff sed

Women are individuals, not attachments to a man.

for her?

BS "investigations" of Hillary?