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Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:17 PM Jan 2012

Why the Republican race could be irrelevant

Republican presidential candidates have devoted months, if not years, of their lives to chasing their party’s nomination, they’ve raised and spent (along with their super PAC allies) tens of millions of dollars, and they’ve participated in more than a dozen debates – each of which has attracted a massive television audience.

But a startling new poll underscores what has got to be a maddening possibility for Republicans: It could all be for naught – and there may be nothing they can do about it. The NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey points to a measurable uptick in optimism about the country’s economic direction, and in the public’s assessment of President Obama’s performance.

By a 37 to 17 percent margin, respondents said they expect the economy to improve in the next year; back in October, they thought it would get worse by a 32-21 margin. And the number of Americans who believe the country is heading in the right direction now stands at 30 percent – hardly a huge number, but a clear jump from the 17 percent who said so in the fall. Overall, Obama’s approval rating is at 48 percent, the highest it’s been in an NBC/WSJ poll since June, when he was still basking in the afterglow of Osama bin Laden’s demise.

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/26/why_the_gop_race_could_be_irrelevant/

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Why the Republican race could be irrelevant (Original Post) Mosaic Jan 2012 OP
But we mustn't become complacent, we have to fight as hard as we can! LiberalLoner Jan 2012 #1
Things can change drastically in a few months. nevergiveup Jan 2012 #2
I agree Frances Jan 2012 #3
As long as things dont get measurably worse I think Obama wins this. DCBob Jan 2012 #4
Obama's approval is going up BECAUSE of the Republican primaries Hawkowl Jan 2012 #5
With what he's had to deal with, Obama can't be considered lucky. UrbScotty Jan 2012 #7
Touche! Hawkowl Jan 2012 #8
Hispanics, Gays, Attacks from mars grantcart Jan 2012 #6

nevergiveup

(4,762 posts)
2. Things can change drastically in a few months.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jan 2012

It is going to be a battle if for no other reason than Citizens United. We must keep the faith but also keep our noses to the ground. Nothing is a given at this point in time.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. As long as things dont get measurably worse I think Obama wins this.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 02:18 PM
Jan 2012

No matter who the GOP nominee is.

 

Hawkowl

(5,213 posts)
5. Obama's approval is going up BECAUSE of the Republican primaries
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jan 2012

It's all relative. So even though the economy and wages are in the shitter, one cursory glance to the poison spewing out of every Rethuglican orifice shows that Obama ain't that bad.

Obama's career can be summed up in one cliche: "I'd rather be lucky than good".

UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
7. With what he's had to deal with, Obama can't be considered lucky.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:46 PM
Jan 2012

What other President since FDR has had to endure an abysmal economy and two wars, while dealing with the kind of hatred that he has endured? All other Presidents since Truman were luckier than Obama in terms of what they dealt with.

Now the economy is rebounding, one war has ended with another set to end, and the world likes America again. If it was all about luck instead of skill, we'd be in a depression and goodness only knows if we would be at war with Iran.

It's not luck. It's because Obama is that good as a President.

If anyone's lucky, it's us. We are the lucky ones for having such an exemplary leader at the helm of this ship of state.

 

Hawkowl

(5,213 posts)
8. Touche!
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jan 2012

These events and conditions of his presidency were not unforeseen. The economy, the wars, the bigotry, the political hostility, were all well known to anyone paying attention. Yet, he chose to run anyway. I do not agree with his "centrist" positions most of the time, however he deserves a huge amount of credit for choosing to run, and simply accomplishing anything at all.

So, I do not mean to detract from his abilities by saying he is lucky. All greatness has a great deal of luck involved. I only urge him to be bolder in a leftist direction if he truly wants to solve problems and achieve greatness.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
6. Hispanics, Gays, Attacks from mars
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 06:17 PM
Jan 2012

Having conceded national security, middle class issues, investment in the future, infrastructure, restructuing the military, climate change and virtually every other important policy area, after the economy improves they will be left with;

undocumented workers (who will be increasingly needed as the economy gets better)

equal rights for gays (increasingly irrlevent)

leaving them to concentrate on

1) Attack from Mars
2) Chinese invastion of Taiwan
3) Who is going to guess star on Dexter next year
4) Finding a cure for Coulrophobia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulrophobia
5) Getting Women's softball reinstated for the 2020 Olympics
6) Prison reform for 1% ers or any of their elected officials sent to prison

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