There are 50 states, you know?

Hope this 537th iteration sinks like a stone.
Note - won't budge even one Bernie supporter, especially not to the side of a candidate who seems to relish war. You know, guns and bombs and dead people and stuff.

And Bernie has explained his reasoning. Nice little Google project, but I suspect an answer is not the point, the OP headline is.
Cheers!!!!!!

Hillary. It is not on MY list.
Yes, gun control is a very important issue. So is war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and H-1B visas.
Hillary supports those things, so I do not support Hillary. Gun control does not even make a dent.

legislation to date.

a war which killed,maimed, and has destabilized an entire region AND opened the door for isis?

you say gun control is an important issue, and it is. But for me, so is war. And from the way Hillary's talking now, it sounds like she's not gonna hesitate to start another war. How can I possibly support someone who has that policy stance?

how do you? (i will assume you are not a hawk as most dems are not)

not a provocation....genuine question

I disagree that Hillary "won't hesitate to start another war". She's more hawkish than Bernie, yes, but nothing compared to the GOP hawks. What she's talking about now -- a no-fly zone over Syria -- is not remotely comparable to the Iraq War.

a rep from somewhere, don't remember his name. anyway he was talking about the russia situation and saying we have to take a hard line in syria, and i remember thinking gosh, that sounds so much like hillary

war is one of the big issues for me, which is one reason i am for bernie.

the differences between him and the other Democratic candidates on gun control are minimal. He has a couple of positions that are legitimately arguable, but overall they all support strong gun control.

And using a national tragedy as an excuse to paint him as a gun nut is the equivalent of claiming he eats kittens in terms of veracity and seriousness.

.. "current positions" on issues.

That's what the OP is about...

There's no use in railing against the status quo and be not too far different than them in some cases

he is a gun nut today.

You are correct. What a person has done in the distant past is imposing a purity test. I think the difference with Clinton is that many of the criticisms are either more recent or current, or things she has not truly shifted on. Being opposed to gay marriage very shortly before that dam began to burst, and then suddenly becoming a champion of LGBT marriage when it was politically safe, for example.

If Bernie were being cynically manipulative, instead of acting on principle, he'd have suddenly "converted" on his more politically inconvenient positions like liability for gun manufacturers when he started running.

A subtle distinction, but an important one.

It reminds me of when I was in grad school and I was talking with one of my professors about my admiration for Ted Kennedy and what a courageous politician he was. My professor was a garden variety liberal Democrat so he had no innate animus toward Ted Kennedy or any other Democrat. He did ask me to think that if I believe he was an especially courageous politician could I name one position where he was out of step with his Bay State constituents. I really couldn't.

I know his pro busing stance in the 70s put him on the wrong side of many Boston southies but I suspect it played well in other parts of the state where busing wasn't an issue because there were no students to be bused.

The questions always center around how imperfect, and how the nature of the imperfections match one's own imperfections (or opinions).

My heroes in junior high were the martyred Kennedy brothers, Dr. King, and Muhammad Ali. They still are now... But having read a great deal about all of them I can state they were three dimensional beings and not cardboard saints. If they were the latter they wouldn't be as interesting nor their accomplishments as profound.

People were well aware of their peccadilloes but loved them like relatives.

It's always interesting how for some figures, their feet of clay are part of what people admire about them -- either while alive or afterward. Also interesting to speculate how some historical figures might or might not survive in today media climate. Would Ike be considered "too boring" today? Or FDR too immoral to lead the country?

Another aside... I find it interesting how Faux News lionizes MLK while bashing and demonizing today's civil rights leaders. But if he were alive today, God knows what they'd be saying about him.

I don't think John Kennedy could survive his serial philandering. But it was a different era so it is unfair to judge him by the standards of ours. He would have acted differently or chosen another profession...He also was an incredibly brave man. Who else has his dad pull strings to get him into the military?

Also, both John and Robert were much more pragmatic than the liberal icons they are now remembered as.

... congress while Sanders can say congress is holding him up

There is no one who is angrier than President Obama over the failure of Congress to pass meaningful gun control legislation. And President Obama has demonstrated that is is more than willing to use executive action to overide Cingress when he sees it as possible.

I suspect if there were a realistic way to take such steps on gun control, he would have done it by now.

But Hillary claiming that she has some magic wand that will instantly fix the problem seems a bit, er disingenuous, to me.

Bernie is right - it is hard to pass meaningful gun control by executive fiat. It takes Congress passing laws.

Most of her list is constitutionally impossible and she knows it. ..posturing..

Thanks for your valuable work!

What's up with that?

and a purity test none of the candidates can pass is being applied to Hillary.

who were killed and wounded are comforted by her regret.

and a few thousand Americans.
I don't think that this is enough.
Bernie voted against the Brady Bill because it was against the constituents in the state of Vermont, which he represented.
Bernie HAS proposed legislation to combat this gun issue, has Hillary?
I guess it matters that Bernie voted against the Brady Bill, since he has such a low rating with the NRA.
Give me a break already.

... should do but Hillary is CONSTANTLY nagged for doing something similar and is called weather vane or some other crap.

Hillary HAS proposed legislation to combat this gun issue BEFORE Bernie did, I don't think Sanders should run from his record on guns...

Please stop with the low NRA rating, it was political... we all know they helped him win his first election

Sanders stance on guns is well known

Some say that she voted for her constituents. I seem to remember about a million of them demonstrating against the war BEFORE it happened. I know, because I was one of them. What's funny also is that my congressman at the time, Maurice Hinchey, voted against the war. He was re elected in his next term by a handy margin.

Hillary was in zero danger to lose her Senate seat, but 70% of New Yorkers approved of giving Bush the tools necessary to attack Hussein, if need be. What no one expected was that he, Cheney and the rest of his merry Neocons would not insist on more inspections and start a war five months later.

I live in this region, my tiny town of Hoboken lost more people on 9/11 than any other city in NJ. Furthermore, I was inside the North Tower, coming out of a PATH train, when a plane was already embedded into the building. I survived, but saw people jump from windows and it's a day I will never forget. So, I don't give a crap what people in different parts of the country have to say about the events of that day.

Even though Saddam was no threat to us?

Was it a mistake in hindsight? Yes, we all know that it was. Trusting Bush and his cronies was the mistake. She had been first lady for 8 years and was the senator of the state that suffered the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history. She believed in giving a president all the tools that he needed in his tool box. I don't blame Democrats for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, I blame the ones who actually started these wars: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Hindsight is not an option when it comes to war. Bernie did not need hindsight to know that vote was wrong--and would de-stablize the entire Middle East.

approved of giving Bush the the power to attack a country that the rest world knew had nothing to do with Iraq if that's true. Everybody and anybody who paid any attention knew damn good and well Cheney Bush and the rest of their merry Neocons were going to war with Iraq come hell or high water.

What's up with that?

Shall we compare U.S. Gun deaths to the number of WORLDWIDE gun deaths caused from Hillary's IWR vote?

of the Majority of All Vermonters. That is his Job. That is Why he's been Re-Elected and sent back to DC - With the Approval and Votes of VT GOP. Unlike, I might add, the Other 99 Senators....for the most part.

President Sanders will sign bills based upon All of us.....by majority. What's so hard about believing that?

Because he has so well represented the State of VT....Shouldn't he be Applauded rather than Criticized by those of us who don't Live in VT for his excellent service to All in VT?

And also to protect Big Gun from lawsuits after every massacre.

But...there it is.

Who was Hillary representing when she voted to send my brother to Ramadi?

This guy was representing his constituents also:

George Wallace Segregation Speech

Wow, that's kind of harsh, but whatever.

and for protecting big gun manufacturers?

How many millions paid the price for that vote?

Which is why i support Hillary. If someone that can't win a national election like Bernie gets the nomination, the teahaddists will have total control of all branches of government.

We will have 3 or 4 Iraq wars on day one and they will kill social security and anything that helps the average american to pay for it.

Not to mention all the dead and maimed for life poor kids what will do the fighting.

She just said she supports regime change in Syria.

and voted to protect assault weapons manufacturers.

Why would that make you support him?

I already told you why I support Hillary, even if you don't like the answer.

Or did he come out and renounce his votes on those bills and admit it was a mistake to vote for them?

Got a link to prove that claim?

I really don't know so go ahead and enlighten me.

If he hasn't he is obviously still against it as his vote proves.

and to protect big gun manufacturers, then he still believes in that vote, obviously.

You are very welcome.

The same one Bernie is losing now.

Funny hearing a Bernie backer talking about national elections with a regional candidate like Bernie Sanders who can't break out of a few small majority white states to save his life LOL

Iowa

White alone, percent, 2014 (a) 92.1%

Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 (a) 3.4%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html


New Hampshire

White alone, percent, 2014 (a) 94.0%

Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 (a) 1.5%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/33000.html

Thats why.

Bernie doesn't. He is one dimensional, IOW.

Keep beating that dead horse!

I know.

If you can show me Bernie catching fire in some more diverse southern states that vote in Super Tuesday say, then I might begin to believe hes got a shot at the nomination.

But until that happens, Hillary's got it running away.

Mark Twain
“Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.”

I'm thinking these are the old ones with new names since so many of them were outed at that other site because they were stupid enough to use their DU names.

had not thought of that. makes sense.

This has been recycled a hundred times in the last four months.

He voted for the ban on assault weapons, for instant background checks, for closing the gun show loophole, to ban assault weapons, protect gun manufacturers...He says, "...there has got to be some give on both sides...we've got to bridge the cultural divide..."

Is it safe to assume now that she has completely divested from Walmart to free herself so she can advocate for gun control?

Isn't Walmart now and weren't they when she sat on the BOD, this country's largest firearms and ammo retailer?

Have you ever asked yourself if any of the firearms or ammo sold by Walmart during her tenure and or while being a shareholder, had been used in mass shootings?

Did she have mixed feelings during the lead up to the Brady Bill vote knowing she was profiting from the sale of firearms as a shareholder?

Do you think it is in her best interest that her supporters are making such a big issue about Bernie Sanders position on whether firearms manufactures should be held liable for firearms deaths and not also focusing on all who are profiting or have profited from firearms sales, including Hillary Clinton herself?