2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum2008 'Annie Get Your Gun' Clinton
Cast your mind back to 2008 pandering Annie Oakley
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/clinton-portrays-herself-as-a-pro-gun-churchgoer/
She described herself as a pro-gun churchgoer, recalling that her father taught her how to shoot a gun when she was a young girl and said that her faith is the faith of my parents and my grandparents.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x352541
delrem
(9,688 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)many people have forgotten
delrem
(9,688 posts)shouldn't have appointed her SoS.
In hindsight, I mean.
His worst decision.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)This is why Bernie says we need to build a broad base.
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Petraeus stunk too but at least I can see the political purpose but fucking Clapper had no cache with the public.
Cabinet and advisor level appointments were low floor/limited ceiling with Solis maybe the best and judges that are dicey at best too, who can we trust on civil liberties, strong corporate regulation and oversight, or limiting executive power? Venture outside of the hottest buttons of women's health and CU and the rolling of the dice begins and you have to even wonder on those as you drop down levels and start running into conservatives and out Republicans.
Actually, while I agree Clinton should not have been selected she in reality was one of his better choices because his selections were so generally bad news.
The "voices for the left" in the administration were Biden and Obama himself which instantly illustrates how far out of wack the whole thing was.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)brushing "the dirt off his shoulders," which he did after he was sharply attacked by Hillary Clinton.
http://www.bilerico.com/2008/04/obama_brushes_clinton_dirt_off_his_shoul.php#EbIjdf7GOxzSVba8.99
No. I don't think they do remember.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)loving nostalgia
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Ichigo Kurosaki
(167 posts)from a guy who released a poorly done photo op pic to show he believed in gun rights.
But in my honest opinion Hillary will say and do anything to get elected then forget about her promises afterward.
It's all about her, it's her turn, she earned it, etc.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)not much of the 'us'
reformist2
(9,841 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Let's talk about 2008!
Yeah, 'cause that's relevant.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Since she's now trying to run as the "anti-gun" candidate while trying to cast someone with a reasonable record and stance on guns as a gun nut.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)during the 2008 campaign? It was one of her usual Weathervanian campaign tactics, but it backfired spectacularly.
Hillary Clinton has re-opened her sharp attack on Barack Obama's position on guns, with a mailer in Indiana that seeks to raise questions about him with both supporters and opponents of gun rights.
The mailing -- perhaps the sharpest-edged of Clinton's five negative mail pieces in Indiana -- casts him as a typical politician, saying different things to different audiences. It also revives his damaging comments in San Francisco that small town people cling to guns.
Then, making the harsh case more broadly, the mailer asks: "What does Barack Obama really believe?"
The piece is particularly striking coming from Clinton, who has been seen for most of her career as a firm advocate of gun control, but more recently has emerged -- without dramatically shifting her stance on specific issues -- as a defender of the Second Amendment who fondly recalled being taught to shoot by her grandfather in Scranton.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/05/clinton-mailing-attacks-obama-on-guns-008390#ixzz3nrZUTbiJ
This was an entertaining part of the story...
To make matters worse, a prominent gun dealer said, its an expensive German gun with customized features that make it clearly European.
The gun in the photo does not exist, said Val Forgett III, president of Navy Arms in Martinsburg, W.Va. Forgett's company was Mausers agent in the United States when the gun was released, and it sold Mauser guns here again in the 1990s. The bolt is facing to the left side of the receiver, making it a left-handed bolt action rifle, indicating whoever constructed and approved the mailer did not recognize the image has been reversed.
Forgett said the error would be obvious to sportsmen.
I find it laughable on its face, he said. Its like a picture of Babe Ruth hitting right-handed.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/05/clinton-mailings-gun-gaffe-008398#ixzz3nrYQNlY2
I also remember this Kos diary in response:
Too bad her ad staff screwed the mailer up big-time.
(snip)
We've got Annie Oakley Clinton attacking Obama from the right on guns, despite being a vocal advocate for gun-control before she was against it. Then her campaign chooses a fancy German customized rifle to use in an ad, obviously showing their lack of real knowledge about guns. And that rifle was used as a sniper rifle, recalling the nadir of her thoroughly dishonest campaign. Then they even screw that up by reversing the image to create a rifle that doesn't exist.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/05/05/509057/-Clinton-attacks-Obama-on-guns-screws-it-up-royally-small-update
olddots
(10,237 posts)the gun issue has become so very important in seven years .
olddots
(10,237 posts)Hopefully .