Shut up and vote for Hillary.

Heck, she might change her name to Bernie tomorrow. What to do?

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I know I'm not switching!


[font color="purple"]Go, Bernie!
Ride the purple wave and join The Purple Revolution!

If we question her she could lose the GE. For godsakes think of the children!!

Thanks for the morning giggle, davidpdx.

I think we should all be grateful to him for elevating the discussion, whoever we support.

grand kids and Americans would have a reasonable environment to live in. But not all of us trust her for some reason and she still hasn't usurped all his issues, like the environment, prison industrial complex, path to citizenship etc.

Of course, she still has a few days to switch on those as well. Hopefully, for her, she has a capable staff, with Bernie's issues and her needed transformations readily available so she can make them before the debate.

But seriously, I think it might actually be easier to just change her name to Bernie Sanders.

Fleeting, convenient, evanescent, morphing, easily changed, "conversation".

If she were a chameleon, she would look like what one would see through a madly spinning kaleidoscope. Like those lovable lizards in the TV paint commercial, she changes colors depending on whatever paint chip she is standing on.

It would be six full months of nothing but "I want to empower middle class communities and families by championing the empowerment of the middle class because communities and families need a champion and empowering the championing of middle class community families is my family, community empowerment championing goal"

...one would consider it a good thing for other candidates to emulate the positions of your own candidate, at least insofar as we are talking about issues in which one agrees.

Of course, one may disagree with ones preferred candidate on an issue (as I do with Bernie when it comes to guns). In that case, one would presumably want your own candidate to emulate the positions of an opposing candidate that more closely reflects your own position.

Personally, I'm perfectly happy when Hillary adopts Bernie's positions on issues that I agree with Bernie on. If Bernie pulls Hillary to the left, that's a good thing.

Just like I am happy when Bernie adopts Hillary's positions on issues where I am more in agreement with her. If Hillary pulls Bernie to the left, that's also a good thing in my book.

That's the fly in the ointment - Hillary seems to change her positions based on what seems popular at the time, not based on how she really feels. It is the believe-ability thing, not just whatever words come out of her campaign on any given day.

To be honest, I don't think I need to read or listen to another word Hillary says. I do not believe them. And I already support someone, I see no reason to switch to what seems to be conveniently morphing into a very pale and watered-down imitation. Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery, though.

The candidate WE THE PEOPLE (peons) support.

Before the primaries, run as a Conservative, then run as a Centrist after you secure the nomination.

She's running against Bernie's populists platform for the primaries only.

The difference between the 2 is Bernie won't change after he wins the nomination. In order for Hillary to win she has to highlight her hawkish bona fides to appear to be as tough as any Republican.

Fuck that, I'm sticking with Bernie.

Sanders is pulling her to the left and changing the political landscape. Good.

... she revert right back to the same old corporate enabling, bankster loving, warmongering, power-hungry egotist she really is. Neoliberals lie as easily as they breath, ESPECIALLY to voters.

One would think lessons had been learned, but some people are just gluttons for punishment.

Of course she's not against the TPP, XL PIPELINE and she sure as hell won't be taxing her buddies' Wall St. Transactions. It's all a bunch of bull and it's hard to believe people actually believe it....in 2015, after all the blatant LIES we've been fed over the last 40 years.

She is against them coming up as issues during the debate. She is against unions endorsing Sanders because she helped write some of the language of the TPP. She is against discussing the XL pipeline in a way that might make a repeatable video-meme on youtube.

The only thing she is for is concealing very real differences between candidate policies to maintain her bullshit "inevitablity."

I trust Bernie and Martin will call her out on this bullshit. She won't get away with it. She's just going to end up looking foolish.

he has gotten almost no attention, and he does not hesitate to rip into any of them, even going after bernie on the gun issue, which I think he was wrong about because Bernie is actually for commonsense gun control. I think it was an unfair slam. But in any event, Martin really seems like he's in attack dog mode. I don't think he will hesitate during the debates to call her out on her bullshit.

go into this debate loaded for bear and unload every TRUTH they can get in edgewise.

Bernie can handle the gun issue if Martin and Hillary go after him. That really doesn't concern me.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Goldman will write the banking regs and the MIC will be able to bomb the shit out of whomever they want to.

I do not trust one word that woman says, and I trust no Clinton any farther than I could throw the Sphinx.

One less thing to defend next week.

and vote for the nominee in the general
It's that simple

stop telling people to vote for in the general. we are capable of making our own decisions based on our conscience. And as much as it might disappoint you, if the nominee is Hillary, some of our consciences will not allow us to vote for her. Something you'll just have to live with.

That is what they expect of you. And stop asking questions!!!



P.S. She hasn't really changed on the issues. She called the XL Pipeline a "Distraction" from the (unnamed) things that we should be doing. Once we start doing those unnamed things to Hillary's satisfaction, she can switch back to supporting it because at that point the reason she opposed it will be gone. On the TPP she just says she is "worried" and "based on what she knows now". When it is convenient for her, she can claim to know more and that her worries have subsided. You need to pay attention to how she qualifies her statements. Her loyalists will just hear what they want to hear and tune out what she is really saying. That is just how she does politics.

They are running out of neck braces for them after all the "wink, wink" "nod, nods" that they are doing as Hillary does all this verbal spinning for the primaries. They know she's just doing it because of Bernie and I'm not convinced or amused by her antics.

[link:|