2016 Postmortem

portlander23

(2,078 posts) Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:38 PM Oct 2015

Poll: Clinton support falls substantially in Virginia

WaPo: Clinton drops, Trump still the favorite for Virginia voters, poll shows

A Christopher Newport University survey released Monday morning found that if the Democratic primary were held now, Clinton would win with 40 percent of the vote. That’s a substantial drop from the 80 percent who said they’d vote for her in April, which is the last time the Wason Center for Public Policy asked about her.

The numbers are consistent with other polls that show her declining as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) picks up support and Democrats anticipate the possible candidacy of Vice President Biden. Going into the Democrats’ first debate Tuesday night on CNN, Sanders takes 23 percent of the vote, as does Biden.

Officials in both parties have said Virginia is key to their eventual nominee’s path to the White House, and candidates are making regular trips to the state. Trump is planning to be in Richmond on Wednesday night for a rally.

Clinton will hold a rally in Northern Virginia on Oct. 23 with Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D), a close friend and chairman of her 2008 bid for the White House. That same day, Bush will attend a forum at Regent University in Virginia Beach with its founder, television evangelist Pat Robertson.

Nearly half of voters say they’ve given “quite a lot” of thought to the election and 84 percent are following news about the candidates at least “somewhat closely.”

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Poll: Clinton support falls substantially in Virginia (Original Post) portlander23 Oct 2015 OP

April to October comparison!? Before anyone was running? OK, then....NEXT! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #1

It only takes one vote more then the other to win yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #8

Virginia awards delegates proportionately thesquanderer Oct 2015 #29

Thanks. I learned a ton from you tonight! yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #30

Well, Clinton supporters are counting endorsements from 2014, so why not? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #26

iT'S SAME STORY Robbins Oct 2015 #2

So we go RandySF Oct 2015 #3

Gotta understand something, there is a movement on DU to destroy HIllary, no matter randys1 Oct 2015 #7

No, it's about flushing the Turd Way. Clinton is just the latest representative of the right wing TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #31

Well I remember trying to tell all those who posted her 80% poll ratings every week or more sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #15

She's going to win VA RandySF Oct 2015 #19

Is she? She was going to win NH also airc. Not hearing that anymore. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #20

Of course Bernie being next door had nothing to do with that. RandySF Oct 2015 #25

Exactly! kenfrequed Oct 2015 #23

The more people hear about Bernie will turn into votes for another candidate. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #4

That's kind of a strange thing to say. Why do you believe so? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #27

virginia will be blue restorefreedom Oct 2015 #5

"Clinton would win with 40 percent of the vote" workinclasszero Oct 2015 #6

The header of post should read FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #9

And what with the election only a few short hours away, it should be a lock. frylock Oct 2015 #16

March 1st workinclasszero Oct 2015 #17

Yeah, sure. See you on 3/2.. frylock Oct 2015 #18

What happened with NH? Wasn't that a 'lock' for Hillary too? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #22

Are you saying NH is a lock for Burnie? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #24

At this point no state is a lock for anyone. morningfog Oct 2015 #32

Gee, and virtually all of the Virginia's elected officials are all in for Berniee Boov Oct 2015 #10

You've got to hand it to Bernie 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #11

But equal to an undeclared candidate Godhumor Oct 2015 #13

Gee, you mean from before anyone else announced? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #12

Clinton announced after Sanders. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #14

That's not true Dramato Oct 2015 #21

Her kickoff event happened after sanders' but her announcement was first Scootaloo Oct 2015 #28

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

1. April to October comparison!? Before anyone was running? OK, then....NEXT!

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:40 PM

Oct 2015

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

8. It only takes one vote more then the other to win

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:48 PM

Oct 2015

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)

29. Virginia awards delegates proportionately

Reply to yeoman6987 (Reply #8)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:21 PM

Oct 2015

So if HRC beats Sanders by one vote, the two of them walk away with the same number of delegates.

Primaries are not about how many states you win, but about how many delegates you win. Number of states is irrelevant.

Of course, winning more delegates in a state is better than winning fewer.

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

30. Thanks. I learned a ton from you tonight!

Reply to thesquanderer (Reply #29)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 11:26 PM

Oct 2015

I appreciate it.

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

26. Well, Clinton supporters are counting endorsements from 2014, so why not?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:41 PM

Oct 2015

Robbins

(5,066 posts)

2. iT'S SAME STORY

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:41 PM

Oct 2015

as time goes on and people hear about bernie or hear her she loses support.

RandySF

(58,982 posts)

3. So we go

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:42 PM

Oct 2015

From a point where Hillary was alone to where a few moving bodies are included. Ok.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

7. Gotta understand something, there is a movement on DU to destroy HIllary, no matter

Reply to RandySF (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:45 PM

Oct 2015

the cost.

No matter if that cost means a republican WH, Senate and House.

Teapartiers who hate Women and Black people, picking SC justices.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)

31. No, it's about flushing the Turd Way. Clinton is just the latest representative of the right wing

Reply to randys1 (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:45 AM

Oct 2015

assimilation front choking the life out of our party and liberalism.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

15. Well I remember trying to tell all those who posted her 80% poll ratings every week or more

Reply to RandySF (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 04:35 PM

Oct 2015

that she had no challengers and that those numbers would change if someone were to run against her. But that fell on deaf ears, she was going to win and there was no one who could challenge her.

Now this is being used to explain her falling numbers? Lol!

RandySF

(58,982 posts)

19. She's going to win VA

Reply to sabrina 1 (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:46 PM

Oct 2015

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

20. Is she? She was going to win NH also airc. Not hearing that anymore.

Reply to RandySF (Reply #19)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:56 PM

Oct 2015

RandySF

(58,982 posts)

25. Of course Bernie being next door had nothing to do with that.

Reply to sabrina 1 (Reply #20)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:23 PM

Oct 2015

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)

23. Exactly!

Reply to sabrina 1 (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:01 PM

Oct 2015

Back in June there were so many people that were trumpeting 70-80% numbers like they were chisled into stone tablets and Fed Exed via moses. Those numbers were soft as hell because she was the only candidate running.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

4. The more people hear about Bernie will turn into votes for another candidate.

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:43 PM

Oct 2015

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)

27. That's kind of a strange thing to say. Why do you believe so?

Reply to Thinkingabout (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:42 PM

Oct 2015

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)

5. virginia will be blue

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:43 PM

Oct 2015

and it will be blue for bernie!

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

6. "Clinton would win with 40 percent of the vote"

Reply to portlander23 (Original post)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:45 PM

Oct 2015

Well its tough but hey I guess Hillary would settle for winning with 40%.

Just a hunch on my part.

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)

9. The header of post should read

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 03:11 PM

Oct 2015

Clinton ahead by 17 points!
That's still a large lead.
Bernie stuck in the 20's

frylock

(34,825 posts)

16. And what with the election only a few short hours away, it should be a lock.

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 04:36 PM

Oct 2015

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

17. March 1st

Reply to frylock (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 04:47 PM

Oct 2015

Is the end for Bernie.

The clock is running out and you guys keep acting like you got all the time in the world.

frylock

(34,825 posts)

18. Yeah, sure. See you on 3/2..

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 05:10 PM

Oct 2015

I'd hold off on cracking open the sparkling wine just yet.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)

22. What happened with NH? Wasn't that a 'lock' for Hillary too?

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:00 PM

Oct 2015

This sounds so familiar. 'March 1st is the end for Obama'!

I like that! The certainty, the lack of interest in finding out why Hillary is steadily losing support.

Same as last time.

She could use some more savvy advisers and supporters.

I mean David Brock?

That 'alliance' says so much about the Clintons!