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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum“It was as if you were telling them that Kerry was promising to extend summer into December.”
Interesting article on what the pollsters may be missing, because they don't even know to look for it..
It's a longish read by internet standards and is a cut above the usual Salon fare, IMO.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/12/the_medias_lying_to_you_about_bernie_sanders_this_is_why_a_socialist_can_win_the_fox_loving_red_states/
In 2005, MSNBCs Chris Hayes published some remarkable journalism on his experience canvassing for John Kerry in Wisconsin, where voters didnt seem to have any idea that their economic distress was something for which voting could make a difference.
When I would tell them that Kerry had a plan to lower health-care premiums, they would respond in disbeliefnot in disbelief that he had a plan, but that the cost of health care was a political issue, Hayes reported. It was as if you were telling them that Kerry was promising to extend summer into December.
(. . .)
Data-driven analysis is only as good as the categories by which you sift the information. If youve already decided that liberals are the people who prefer locally sourced arugula to eating at McDonalds, or are the people who dont watch Fox News, it is a reasonable conclusion that there arent enough liberals out there to elect Bernie Sanders. Yet political categories shift. One of the things the best politicians do is work to shift them.
Sanders has been extraordinarily clear about the kind of shift hed like to effect: Republicans divide people on gay marriage. They divide people on abortion. They divide people on immigration. And what my job is, and its not just in blue states. . . [is] to bring working people together around an economic agenda that works. People are sick and tired of establishment politics; they are sick and tired of a politics in which candidates continue to represent the rich and the powerful.
When I would tell them that Kerry had a plan to lower health-care premiums, they would respond in disbeliefnot in disbelief that he had a plan, but that the cost of health care was a political issue, Hayes reported. It was as if you were telling them that Kerry was promising to extend summer into December.
(. . .)
Data-driven analysis is only as good as the categories by which you sift the information. If youve already decided that liberals are the people who prefer locally sourced arugula to eating at McDonalds, or are the people who dont watch Fox News, it is a reasonable conclusion that there arent enough liberals out there to elect Bernie Sanders. Yet political categories shift. One of the things the best politicians do is work to shift them.
Sanders has been extraordinarily clear about the kind of shift hed like to effect: Republicans divide people on gay marriage. They divide people on abortion. They divide people on immigration. And what my job is, and its not just in blue states. . . [is] to bring working people together around an economic agenda that works. People are sick and tired of establishment politics; they are sick and tired of a politics in which candidates continue to represent the rich and the powerful.
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“It was as if you were telling them that Kerry was promising to extend summer into December.” (Original Post)
Fumesucker
Oct 2015
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ornotna
(10,805 posts)1. K&R
cui bono
(19,926 posts)2. That's fascinating.
I have friends who "hate" politics and I just don't understand that. Politics is what shapes our standard of living.