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Romney-Ryan 2012
By Steve Benen
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Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:18 AM EDT
As a rule, when your opponents seem really happy about your choice in running mates, it's fair to say you've made a provocative choice.
And this morning, Democrats are practically giddy, unable to believe their good fortune.
The announcement will be in front of the U.S.S. Wisconsin -- which just happens to be Ryan's home state.
With recent national polls showing Romney trailing President Barack Obama, Ryan is a bold pick.
"Bold" is certainly one way to look at it.
Readers may recall that I tend to think running-mate choices fall into one of three categories: Augusts, Novembers, and Januaries. If a nominee picks a January, he or she is looking for someone who can help govern once inaugurated. If he or she picks a November, the nominee is picking a running mate intended to help win the general election. And if the candidate picks an August, he or she is trying to bring a party together and satisfy intra-party demands.
Paul Ryan is an August. Romney, who never quite made the transition from the primaries to the general election, has been subjected to heavy pressure from conservatives to choose the right-wing House member, and it appears the lobbying campaign was successful. The Republican nominee still feels the need to satisfy the demands of his base, and Romney isn't in a strong enough position to disappoint them.
As a result, both the left and right have the Republican running mate they hoped for -- Romney has picked the architect of a radical, Medicare-crushing budget plan, debated by the least popular Congress since the dawn of modern polling. Indeed, it's fair to say the radical Ryan budget helped make this Congress so widely disliked, which makes his VP nomination that much more remarkable.
For months, Democrats have been trying to inject the "Romney-Ryan plan" into the political bloodstream, and now, the Republicans' presidential candidate has made Dems' job easier. The Obama campaign hoped to make Ryan Romney's effective running mate, never expecting the GOP candidate to make this literal.
The result is a dynamic that was hard to predict. Romney isn't even trying to reach out to moderate voters; he's taking the most far-right candidacy in modern American history and turning it to 11.
Postscript: Just as an aside, this will be the first Republican ticket in American history not to have a Protestant. Romney's a Mormon and Ryan is Roman Catholic.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)watch another lurch to the "even more right wing".
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)CrispyQ
(36,516 posts)Joe Biden is a January.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Ezra Klein
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-will-be-mitt-romneys-vice-presidential-pick-heres-seven-thoughts-on-what-that-means/
babylonsister
(171,092 posts)Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Not when he opens his mouth.
brush
(53,871 posts)I don't know about that. He was in trouble in his district for re-election. This pick is a Godsend for Ryan, not so much for Rmoney. Seniors take note, these two want to get rid of Medicare and Social Security. And women take note Romney already said he's going to get rid of Planned Parenthood.
tigereye
(39,919 posts)Incredible. This pick made me angry enough to send more money to Obama and the Dems, and to come over here after not visiting for quite some time.
Also I don't think Dems should celebrate too much - it's only August, but I bet lots of money will be donated today to them.
Cosmocat
(14,573 posts)Obviously he was impressed with him.
I have not been.
I have seen him fold when his constituents really put it to him about his budget, and I saw a horrible interview when the interviewer said everyone knew he wanted to cut taxes, but wanted Ryan to say what he would do economically and with the budget beyond cutting taxes - he babbled for 15 seconds before talking about tax cuts for a minute and a half.
The Rs, and by extension the "liberal" media fawn over him because he looks good and can do what every other republican half wit can do - babble about cutting taxes and spending for a half minute.
Yes, he does seem likeable.
But, he is a fraud. Like Reagen, like Bush II, like Palin, like Christy. Someone who the right makes into what it wants him or her to be even if it does not stand to reality.
Put him in THIS fishbowl, and after the 2-3 week media circle jerk, when he has to answer to voting for all of bush's disasters, when he has to explain how his "serious" budget does not balance until 2028 while having trillions in tax cuts for the rich, when he has to tell the country how his budget is the framework to destroy SS and medicare - it will come crashing down.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)He has zero appeal to minorities or women or liberal moderates. He is uninspiring and boring and appears too immature and naive to be VP, let alone President.
formercia
(18,479 posts)It's dangerous to embolden a sociopath.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)like Ryan's budget plan.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)NO WAY Ryan would be chosen if the Republican power brokers expected to actually have a real contest for the presidency.
If they expect to lose, then Ryan can be allowed to save face with being chosen for this "last" campaign, and they can excite the extreme RW base and get them to the polls to vote for House and Senate candidates.
If they know the fix is in, with voter suppression tactics and electronic vote hacking, then they figure that they might as well get everything they want right away, not just some of what they want.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Groovy. A libertarian, tea bagger, billionaire-kissin', president. Just what America needs... to plunge it into a third world country status.
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)Democrats will need twice as many ads. Ads for their candidates (or against the opponents) AND ads for how to circumvent voter suppression. Either without the other dooms the race.
And we don't have enough money for this.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)"All we have to do is replace Obama. ... We are not auditioning for fearless leader. We don't need a president to tell us in what direction to go. We know what direction to go. We want the Ryan budget. ... We just need a president to sign this stuff."
This needs to be out there, far and wide, this is why it's Romney/Ryan. Romney is the Trojan Horse.. Ryan is Cheney.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)What occurred to me this morning is that the Republicans can say anything they want out front including they will kill your dog and if they win due to fraudulent and mean practices, they can just say, "people wanted this and this is why we won".
I am not relieved at all and in fact feel quite the opposite.
Z_California
(650 posts)Steal the election advocating extreme positions then call it a "mandate". <Gulp>
glinda
(14,807 posts)Kahuna
(27,311 posts)beltway pundits was glaring. They actually believed this was a game changer that would be good for mittens. Since the explosion in tweets from Dems, they aren't so sure any more.
dsteve01
(312 posts)Ultra Elitist Wall Streeter meets ultra ideological austerity budgeteer.
Yeah, that's a buddy film. Then maybe an election ticket.
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)They get complete control over all, they better pass legislation like mad!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)DFW
(54,437 posts)We do not live in era when the Republican party is being represented by the likes of Dwight Eisenhower and Nelson Rockefeller. We live in an era when they are represented by Scott Walker and Louie Gohmert.
Jimmy Carter probably breathed a sigh of relief when Reagan was nominated, too. We know better now, but they still have a billion dollar advertising advantage plus another billion in free propaganda from Fox Noise and National Hate Radio, not to mention systematic voter disenfranchisement. We're prepared for it all this time, but just because the polls are to our liking now, they do not mean we can all tune out and watch videos until November. We'll win this, but it won't be for free.