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Stallion

(6,476 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:26 PM Oct 2015

All MSNBC Commentators Are Giving Debate to Hillary Rodham Clinton (Tweetie Equivocated)

changed post to reflect Tweetie's apparent flip-flop. He did say Bernie won but also said he sounded like a revolutionary. Good luck on The Revolution

Drudge gave her a poor score however

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All MSNBC Commentators Are Giving Debate to Hillary Rodham Clinton (Tweetie Equivocated) (Original Post) Stallion Oct 2015 OP
Well, Drudge will call the winner a loser, and the loser a winner--it's what he does. nt MADem Oct 2015 #1
Drudge? That Alex Joneser loon? Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2015 #84
They are all 'friends' of hers. It's a bit much. n/t Avalux Oct 2015 #2
All talking heads on CNN doing the same. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #3
Are we surprised Robbins Oct 2015 #6
Internet and internet polls! Okeydoke! nt Walk away Oct 2015 #9
Remarkable! oasis Oct 2015 #23
except Roy Ellefson Oct 2015 #77
Yes, the meaning is that those who are millennial slackavists are all over it! ChimpersMcSmirkers Oct 2015 #80
Compared to talking heads? Yes. I will take the multitude over the few. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #89
Online polls where you can vote multiple times and aren't scientific at all? I thought we are Metric System Oct 2015 #51
She did very well. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #4
she did very well, but she had some flubs. Sanders did better with the people, especially magical thyme Oct 2015 #10
It is in my signature now. I absolutely love it, and probably defined Bernie. One Man Stands Alone Oct 2015 #14
I think she did better but Sanders did well. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #16
When Bernie brought up "the corporate media" as a toxic force in America, bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #5
very good point. Bernie lectured the media. Now they must punish him. magical thyme Oct 2015 #11
Good point. That kind of cooked his goose TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #12
CNN is liking CLinton as well Persondem Oct 2015 #7
Drudge and Hillary haters think alike uponit7771 Oct 2015 #8
How cute! nt Logical Oct 2015 #17
...and factual uponit7771 Oct 2015 #19
Nope. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #47
How so? tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #66
That's a boring statement Armstead Oct 2015 #35
Ever since DU became BSU, Drudge is no longer right wing garbage! Walk away Oct 2015 #43
The entire internet is giving it to Hillary. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #13
Yeah, the internets... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #26
The entire internet...you talked to them all did you? Armstead Oct 2015 #36
Except Time, Facebook, CNN, Slate, and so on... Just saying. You're completely wrong. Fearless Oct 2015 #39
Social media? Please. Lyric Oct 2015 #55
People. Fearless Oct 2015 #56
ha ha. Hope you know those on line polls are goofy riversedge Oct 2015 #58
"Goofy" is that a technical term? Fearless Oct 2015 #60
CNN's focus group, Fox New's focus group, Fusion's focus group... just saying Matariki Oct 2015 #85
Oh really? Z_California Oct 2015 #44
Bull shit. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #49
I hate it when Democrats talk like Republicans. n/t Avalux Oct 2015 #52
The MSM will be getting even with Bernie. That's why we have the Internet - where he's winning BIG! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #15
The media assumes she will be the nominee so as long as she doesn't make a huge mistake during the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #18
What. The. Fuck? Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #20
They talk about how polished she was. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #27
Let's face it, Sanders winged the MSM with that Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #30
Come on... it's MSNBClinton. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #48
Obvious media bias Dying Eagle Oct 2015 #21
The anti-Hillary crowd is with Drudge. Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #22
Well, well who woulda thunk it? oasis Oct 2015 #31
Quelle surprise.... truebrit71 Oct 2015 #24
Tweety said Bernie won, but it seems to be only him. n/t Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #25
The corporate mockingbirds are not going to give the one candidate that's calling them out stillwaiting Oct 2015 #28
This is just more idiotic "frontrunnerism" - if she didn't fall flat on her face, then she won! reformist2 Oct 2015 #29
Hillary does very well among the powerful jfern Oct 2015 #32
watched fox restorefreedom Oct 2015 #33
seriously? bettyellen Oct 2015 #37
yes, seriously restorefreedom Oct 2015 #40
MSNBC is owned by GE and Comcast. senz Oct 2015 #34
Chris Matthews said he thought Bernie won.. New Earth Oct 2015 #38
are you serious? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #41
he told him to his face that he thought he won New Earth Oct 2015 #67
wow, sorry i missed that restorefreedom Oct 2015 #69
Better go to the tape! He was pretty up front about calling it for Hillary. Walk away Oct 2015 #46
Yeah but He Did Back Off that Stallion Oct 2015 #54
Tweety ended one segment saying the race would tighten by only three points. oasis Oct 2015 #59
Tweety was havung one of his bipolar moments tonite Armstead Oct 2015 #57
The commentators may be giving it to Hillary but not the people in the focus groups, Autumn Oct 2015 #42
I like the line they all use "Bernie appealed to HIS PEOPLE". Whoa like glinda Oct 2015 #71
they were using terms like 'his fans' Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #82
So who decides who won the debate? Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #83
Media pundits get paid very well to support Establishment positions and politicians. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #90
Why? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #45
Of course they are. Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #50
They disagree with the American people as a whole Doctor_J Oct 2015 #53
Hillary walked away with the debate workinclasszero Oct 2015 #61
Unanimous opinion, except for all the polls??? LOL! reformist2 Oct 2015 #86
Click bait internet polls workinclasszero Oct 2015 #87
CNN poll was totally manipulated R B Garr Oct 2015 #62
They all were. ChimpersMcSmirkers Oct 2015 #81
All the polls and focus groups give the debate to Sanders. Corporate media gives it to Clinton. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #63
No, online was total spam bullshit R B Garr Oct 2015 #70
How is the CNN focus group online spam? Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #72
Did you watch the online polling live? R B Garr Oct 2015 #75
So how about those Mets? Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #76
Its hilarious to watch the Bernistas R B Garr Oct 2015 #78
I fucking hate that word Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #79
Yeah, Chris Matthews was particularly disgusting. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #64
Well he will pander to whom he believes will give him access. glinda Oct 2015 #74
CNN seems pretty even as far as the commentators go the focus group went Sanders. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #65
Drudge lied in 2008, said Clinton gave him dirt on Obama. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #68
They were clearly told to do that in advance. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #73
Of course...the fix has been in since 2008. davidn3600 Oct 2015 #88
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
84. Drudge? That Alex Joneser loon?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:21 AM
Oct 2015

I'm surprised he didn't declare the entire debate a false flag operation because Ben Gazzie.

 

Roy Ellefson

(279 posts)
77. except
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:49 AM
Oct 2015

except internet polls on a self selecting population do have meaning...there are no random samples to use in a case like this

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
51. Online polls where you can vote multiple times and aren't scientific at all? I thought we are
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:10 AM
Oct 2015

the party of science.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
10. she did very well, but she had some flubs. Sanders did better with the people, especially
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:31 PM
Oct 2015

when he bailed her out of the email question.

That will stick in the minds of everybody who was introduced to him for the first time tonight.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
5. When Bernie brought up "the corporate media" as a toxic force in America,
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:30 PM
Oct 2015

I knew the long knives would come out.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
43. Ever since DU became BSU, Drudge is no longer right wing garbage!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:58 PM
Oct 2015

Now it's the go to for Bernie supporters.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
26. Yeah, the internets...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015

Same as the "all fifty states!" variety.

Hillary did very well. She did what she needed to do tonight.

Lyric

(12,675 posts)
55. Social media? Please.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:15 AM
Oct 2015

Not a good predictor of reality unless the only people who matter are under 30.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
60. "Goofy" is that a technical term?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:21 AM
Oct 2015

I see thousands of people expressing their opinions.

You would be supporting the poll if any of them agreed with you.

But as I said... CNN, CNN's support group, Facebook, Slate, Time, HuffPo and several other polls gave the debate HANDILY to Bernie... all between 70%-85%.

Not even close.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
18. The media assumes she will be the nominee so as long as she doesn't make a huge mistake during the
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:36 PM
Oct 2015

debate she will be the assumed winner of the debate.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
30. Let's face it, Sanders winged the MSM with that
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:41 PM
Oct 2015

"damn email" comment. And they wonder why they're more and more irrelevant.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
48. Come on... it's MSNBClinton.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:03 AM
Oct 2015

They're still asking themselves "Who IS this grumpy old man? Debbie... who IS this grumpy old man?"

Dying Eagle

(1,785 posts)
21. Obvious media bias
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:37 PM
Oct 2015

Go Figure the Billionaire Corporate owned mass media is still only talking about Hilary and continue to ignore Bernie. Says everything you need to know about the primary. The Clinton's are part of the problem, not a solution to it.......Go Bernie!!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
28. The corporate mockingbirds are not going to give the one candidate that's calling them out
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:39 PM
Oct 2015

forcefully any help at all. They'll fight him every step of the way.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
29. This is just more idiotic "frontrunnerism" - if she didn't fall flat on her face, then she won!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:41 PM
Oct 2015

This is why I pulled the plug on MSNBC months ago. Useless commentary.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
33. watched fox
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:47 PM
Oct 2015

frank luntz (yeah i know) had a group of dems in a focus group. he asked how many supported hillary at the beginnng. about half raised hands. he said how many now? about half of THEM raised hands. he asked who won debate...everyone shouted Bernie!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
40. yes, seriously
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:55 PM
Oct 2015

i sampled the three cables. msnbc was unwatchable, cnn only slightly more bearable, so tried fox. their dem coverage has been more evenhanded than i expected. not great, but better than sniveling matthews.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
69. wow, sorry i missed that
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:31 AM
Oct 2015

i was sure matthews leg was tingling, but after i read your comment i went back. he almost sounds reasonable

maybe he felt the bern tonight

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
46. Better go to the tape! He was pretty up front about calling it for Hillary.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:01 AM
Oct 2015

He called her a Reformer and Bernie a Revolutionary who wanted to tear down the government during his post debate interviews. He repeated it several times.
But, if it helps you through the night, believe what you want.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
54. Yeah but He Did Back Off that
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:14 AM
Oct 2015

and I'm a Clinton supporter. Seemed to be praising him with feint praise though with the comment you cited. ie America won't vote with a revolutionary

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
57. Tweety was havung one of his bipolar moments tonite
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:16 AM
Oct 2015

Both sides were in evidence. He has tooting the Hillary bandwagon, but he also told Sanders he thought Sanders won.

I think he's gone over the bend.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
42. The commentators may be giving it to Hillary but not the people in the focus groups,
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:57 PM
Oct 2015

they are giving it to Bernie. Considering how Bernie called out the media it stands to reason the media pundits would line up for Hillary, while the people line up for Bernie. I think that shows Bernie won the debate.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
71. I like the line they all use "Bernie appealed to HIS PEOPLE". Whoa like
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:37 AM
Oct 2015

the idea that "people who agree and support Bernie are not part of the "particular in-crowd" they are in????? WTF. It was repeated over and over again tonight. Condescending.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
83. So who decides who won the debate?
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:19 AM
Oct 2015

Is there someone in the media that decides? Most focus groups said Bernie.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
90. Media pundits get paid very well to support Establishment positions and politicians.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:49 AM
Oct 2015

No doubt they are very aware that their continued appearances rely on how able they are to put forth the Establishment position in a manner that best manufactures consent from the potentially brainwashed viewers.

There are as many uncorrupted pundits in the media as there are uncorrupted politicians in Washington. Not many.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
61. Hillary walked away with the debate
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:23 AM
Oct 2015

Pretty much unanimous opinion, unscientific internet clickbait polls notwithstanding.

Its a GREAT day to be a Hillary supporter!!

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
62. CNN poll was totally manipulated
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:24 AM
Oct 2015

On Facebook I saw disagree votes flooding before she started speaking. Typical BS supporter BS.

She rocked it.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
63. All the polls and focus groups give the debate to Sanders. Corporate media gives it to Clinton.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:24 AM
Oct 2015

That's the disconnect.

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
70. No, online was total spam bullshit
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:37 AM
Oct 2015

I watched disagree votes flood in before she started speaking. Just online spam.

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
64. Yeah, Chris Matthews was particularly disgusting.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:25 AM
Oct 2015

Very partisan. He said here's this guy calling for a revolution, and thereby missed Bernie's whole point. Clear who Chris wants.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
74. Well he will pander to whom he believes will give him access.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:39 AM
Oct 2015

It is a lot of career moves for him. He likes to talk about his self a lot I noticed.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
73. They were clearly told to do that in advance.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:39 AM
Oct 2015


And Drudge...well, he'd give Joan of Arc a poor score if she ran as a Dem.
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