She lost ground with me by doing that. No I was never a supporter. But, I will never support someone based on their gender, race, religion (or lack of), or that they like movies.

I don't vote based on gender, race or religion. The candidates views are what matter to me.

I found her saying that over and over as being very marginalizing to women voters: That we would vote for a lying, flip flopping, war hawk just because she was a women. Yuk!

She seemed very focused on superficial differences between her and Obama. I was waiting for her to say she was a "hard working" white person.

She's got all the establishment support. Only the little people support Bernie.

Sanders supporters skew more affluent than Clinton supporters. He also has a sizable number of supporters among the 1 percent, including billionaires. Six figure incomes are not "the little guy." They have more than 95% of the people on planet earth and more than 80% or more of Americans, depending on how much over $100k they make.

She didn't say vote for me because I'm a woman. What she stated was a factual point.
There has never been a woman president and that matters a great deal. To claim, however,
that she said people should vote for her because she is a woman is patently false.

I find the continual belittling of the role of gender in the election and society more broadly incredibly ill-informed, at best. This is an election that breaks down along class, gender, and race lines. Sanders supporters tend to be whiter, more male and more affluent. Clinton voters, like the Democratic Party, tend to be female, of color, and earn less money. Gender matters a great deal in one's life, and it certainly matters in terms of the issues that Clinton cares about and how she addresses them, as they do for Sanders.

There are many reasons to vote for Clinton, and dealing a blow to male supremacy is only one of them. When I see comments like this, it reminds me of how necessary that is. You ridicule what would be a momentous step in history, something that would make a huge difference for generations of girls and women. The fact that many criticize her in ways that have nothing to do with policy--focusing on her tone and appearance--shows just how deeply sexism runs in our society.

I suppose if I were supporting a candidate who did as badly as Sanders, revealing a limited knowledge of foreign policy and making statements CNN ruled "false" on guns, I might try to distract as well. What I would never do, however, is stoop to belittling something as immutable as gender (or race).

And the fact that she brought it up three times...

Isn't that a defacto plea to vote for her because she is a woman? It was one of her low points tonight. Few see it any other way.

I am not buying your argument, BanesBane, because I don't think such a rhetoric argument has any credibility, give the circumstances.

Nota bene: she also had many high points. I certainly don't intend to dwell on this one, as it is a minor one. BTW, I have not and will not express a preference on DU up to this time and have no intentions to do so any time soon. Also, I will support and vote for any candidate who gets the Democratic nomination.

My best to you, my friend.

As a human, she fails.


And that is all that matters to me.

over 50% of the population. Why wouldn't it be important to us to have the female view represented?

man can represent a woman's viewpoint as well as a woman...LOL. Abortion legality is hanging by a thread. I don't see any man stepping up to fight the very real war on women. Al Franken came the closest.

I don't vote for Republicans EVER so don't throw a stupid Palin question at me.

most women feel? Do you have a crystal ball? I don't know what most women feel but I know plenty who think the war on women is not being adequately addressed and they are ready for the right woman as president. Hillary is more than qualified.

I think a black president can represent the black view better than a white president.

And Sarah Palin can't represent any point of view because she's dumber than a stump.

MOST women in the country?

Yes, there is a war on women.

I'm tired and sleepy, it's 5:00 am. Go talk to "most women".

it better than I could. Thanks.

Undoubtedly you will tell me I am "mansplaining", but I have learned that gender is much more varied than the traditional "two genders" and that yes, it is quite mutable.

Could we possibly be more different other than the fact that we are both corporate hacks at heart?

Don't agree with Black Lives Matter because they focus on racial oppression?

I hear the same shit repeated by Clinton supporters on DU as well.

that they would vote for someone based on gender. I would love to know where that idea came from. It is truly insulting to women.

I'm glad to hear a woman say this. Voting for Barack Obama in 2008 was never about race, it was about where he stood on the issues and his ideas.

Any slight criticism of Clinton and one is referred to as a "hater".

it was about race for many black people (and some white people)? If you don't I've got some land to sell you.

It wasn't for me. For me it was about the best candidate. I don't give a fuck about race, gender, religion, etc. I vote for the best candidate period. In 2008, that candidate was Barack Obama.

give a fuck. Not everyone thinks like you or me.

woman. We know that, and we don't care. We want to know who has the best record on policies and on making difficult decisions that affect the lives of millions of people.

You're right re Obama also. I supported him primarily because had the good judgement to oppose the Iraq War. After that I supported him because he opposed Mandated Ins. (sad to say he reneged on that promise later) Hillary supported it. Obama's message during the campaign was a more Progressive message than hers.

I was disappointed when he voted for the FISA Bill Amendment letting the criminals off the hook, retroactively.

However, I weighed the pros and cons and his opposition to the Iraq War was a deciding factor.

My support for him, like yours, was not about his ethnicity, though that was a bonus, it was about issues.

I'll ask my mom if she watched the debate (I'm sure she did) and ask her what she thought of the comment. I know my mom would like to have a woman president, but will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Politically I am more liberal than she is, but I am sure she will support Senator Sanders.

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quite a change from the Presidents we've had up until this point.

Was that false? It wasn't embarrassing to me. If she already had "the thinking person's vote", I doubt she lost any.