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Renew Deal

(81,877 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:39 PM Oct 2015

Did O'Malley perform well enough in the debate to be considered for VP?


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Did O'Malley perform well enough in the debate to be considered for VP? (Original Post) Renew Deal Oct 2015 OP
Really liked him but, they can't be all northerners. Sad but true. bettyellen Oct 2015 #1
that is important restorefreedom Oct 2015 #5
hate that this is true, but we see the bias all the time. anti- NE intellectual bullshit, LOL. bettyellen Oct 2015 #11
Not just that. VPs are supposed to win their region for the ticket. Hortensis Oct 2015 #12
yes, it's always a geographically strategic pic. bettyellen Oct 2015 #20
It wasn't with Biden, though. Vattel Oct 2015 #24
Well they covered two regions, the midwest and the east. I just don't think Dems could afford bettyellen Oct 2015 #26
I guess you are right: Biden did expand the geographical reach of the ticket. Vattel Oct 2015 #28
You're right that this usually means North and South though. I can't even remember who else was bettyellen Oct 2015 #31
Biden was from a big population Eastern state and popular there. nt Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #32
Delaware is a big population state? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #37
My mistake, I apologize. Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #42
i also like warren and ellison restorefreedom Oct 2015 #17
Maryland isn't "northern"...it's border South. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #33
It's in the south of the North, yes. But North. bettyellen Oct 2015 #35
I don't think that matters so much anymore. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #36
Here's a crazy idea- you've got something like 12 million registered Democrats on the West Coast. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #38
Weren't Bill Clinton and Al Gore both Southerners? (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #39
I think that's his intent now Scootaloo Oct 2015 #2
He has been the one I have wanted for VP for a long time. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #3
I replied Not Sure because it's such an important lovemydog Oct 2015 #4
Though he performed well, performance will not be a factor. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #6
Maybe an activist nobody's heard of. That would be interesting. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #34
I think so. brush Oct 2015 #7
Warren on the ticket is also problematic for Clinton or Sanders magical thyme Oct 2015 #18
Yes, I think he did. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #8
I think Hillary would choose someone else, frankly. MineralMan Oct 2015 #9
omalley doubled down on his broken windows policy questionseverything Oct 2015 #10
Martin O’Malley Calls For More Restrictions on NSA Surveillance. elleng Oct 2015 #16
from that link questionseverything Oct 2015 #19
and he falsely claimed that arrests peaked in 2003 so that he could pretend he reduced Vattel Oct 2015 #25
Based solely on his performance Yes, but I voted No Persondem Oct 2015 #13
He's been considered for VP here at DU for way too long; elleng Oct 2015 #14
Agreed, but I like my Governor. Xyzse Oct 2015 #15
I don't understand how he adds any value to the Hillary ticket. tritsofme Oct 2015 #21
Decent performance, but I don't see him really bringing a ton of impact bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #22
He adds nothing. taught_me_patience Oct 2015 #23
Biden added nothing electorally to the 2008 ticket. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #41
The very existence of this thread demonstrates that he did not perform well enough KamaAina Oct 2015 #27
Mr O'Malley was fine in the debate workinclasszero Oct 2015 #29
He'll be considered. And then not chosen. onenote Oct 2015 #30
Yes, but I think it's highly likely that the VP choice will be African American (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #40
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
26. Well they covered two regions, the midwest and the east. I just don't think Dems could afford
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:00 PM
Oct 2015

to stick with a mid-atlantic to new england kind of slate. they need a VP who will bring in additional voters.
kind of tough because it seems like the best choices are from those regions though.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
28. I guess you are right: Biden did expand the geographical reach of the ticket.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:20 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe Castro would be a good pick.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
31. You're right that this usually means North and South though. I can't even remember who else was
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 11:36 PM
Oct 2015

floated for VP back when Obama was first running.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. i also like warren and ellison
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:54 PM
Oct 2015

but i think someone from the south/west is needed.

and yes, the bias sux

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. Here's a crazy idea- you've got something like 12 million registered Democrats on the West Coast.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:25 AM
Oct 2015

While everybody is busy being hung up on Northeast vs. Southeast, perhaps we should consider representing them once in a while.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. He has been the one I have wanted for VP for a long time.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

Since, just a little bit before I saw Bernie at the rally here in Minneapolis. I sort of dumped O'Malley as my pick for president, but I still like him a lot. I think he is smart, compassionate, and he knows the issues. His stand on the environmental issues is about perfect. He wants to develop green energy and grow the economy with that at the same time. I think that it's completely possible to do so.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
4. I replied Not Sure because it's such an important
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:46 PM
Oct 2015

consideration for any nominee. Obama didn't pick the most popular person, he picked someone he liked and respected a great deal. I think O'Malley did very well in the debate. I think he'd be a fine President or Vice-President. So in that regard my answer is yes. But I also feel that the democratic nominee should consider who they like and respect the most.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
6. Though he performed well, performance will not be a factor.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

Clinton would go Castro.
Sanders wwould pick someone that is younger and outside the mainstream of politics.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. Maybe an activist nobody's heard of. That would be interesting.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 12:05 AM
Oct 2015

He could just his communications director...that way, it would be a "Sanders/Sanders" ticket. If not, they should have her do the keynote speech.

brush

(53,894 posts)
7. I think so.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

The nominee sure isn't going to pick Webb or Chafe, and neither Bernie or Hillary is likely to accept a VP slot.

There are the Castro brothers also.

Elizabeth Warren would be problematic to run with Hillary as there would be two women on the ticket, and she's also problematic to run with Bernie as that would present two very left progressives on the ticket.

I think Hillary will go with one of the Castro twins.

Not sure who Bernie would pick.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
18. Warren on the ticket is also problematic for Clinton or Sanders
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:55 PM
Oct 2015

due to geography.

They both will need either a southerner or southwesterner.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
9. I think Hillary would choose someone else, frankly.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

There are so many factors that go into selecting a VP. I'm not sure she's even thinking about that too seriously, yet. He'll probably get some consideration, though, especially if he improves his poll numbers over time.

Right now, I don't think he could pull enough votes to be a good choice. He remains an unknown, nationally, despite the debate.

questionseverything

(9,661 posts)
10. omalley doubled down on his broken windows policy
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 12:58 PM
Oct 2015

which is unconstitutional

and supports the nsa/patriot act which is unconstitutional

questionseverything

(9,661 posts)
19. from that link
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:11 PM
Oct 2015

think we could be less safe if we resort to obstructionism when it comes to something as important as protecting our homeland from the threat of terror attacks,”

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sorry elleng but he disrespects the 4th amendment over and over...personally i am way more afraid of the gov't watching me like a lab rat in a cage than some boogie man terrorist

in the currant environment even if their were a citizens oversight committee for the fisa court,it would be some 1%er doing the same rubber stamping that has come to be accepted

omalley did not let a little thing like "probable cause" get in his way as mayor when he was busting people for standing around in baltimore so i do not believe it would matter to him concerning the nsa

we are either a free people or we are not

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
25. and he falsely claimed that arrests peaked in 2003 so that he could pretend he reduced
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:49 PM
Oct 2015

arrests as he "restored peace to neighborhoods in Baltimore."

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
13. Based solely on his performance Yes, but I voted No
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:26 PM
Oct 2015

The Dem ticket does not need a white guy from MD on the ticket.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
15. Agreed, but I like my Governor.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:48 PM
Oct 2015

So, yes, he performed well enough to be President.
Stating that, like I mentioned, I think the main 3 I am very happy about.

Not too keen on Webb and Chaffee, and not sure why they are even running at this point.
However, more power to them if they wish to continue.

tritsofme

(17,403 posts)
21. I don't understand how he adds any value to the Hillary ticket.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:19 PM
Oct 2015

And I didn't find his debate performance to be particularly impressive.

I would bet good money that he never even gets serious consideration.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
23. He adds nothing.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:25 PM
Oct 2015

He's polling below 5% in his home state. She'll go with an up-and-comer in an important demographic.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
41. Biden added nothing electorally to the 2008 ticket.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:48 AM
Oct 2015

He came from one of the tiniest states in the country, a safe Democratic pickup with all of three electoral votes.

But he gave the fresh faced Obama an added sense of elected Washington experience and a very human, relatable face to the campaign trail.

Don't count someone out simply because they come from a state that doesn't add much in terms of electoral votes.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. The very existence of this thread demonstrates that he did not perform well enough
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

to get the "Colbert bump" he needed to get into the actual presidential race.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
30. He'll be considered. And then not chosen.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:40 PM
Oct 2015

Why? Because he doesn't add anything to the ticket in terms of regional appeal -- another white northeastern candidate.

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