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RandySF

(58,806 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:53 PM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton Says A National Gun Buyback Program Is 'Worth Considering'

It's "worth considering" whether the United States should emulate Australia by instituting a national gun buyback program, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said Friday at a town hall in New Hampshire.

A man in the audience asked Clinton whether she thought it would be possible for the U.S. to enact such a program, and if not, why. Gun buybacks have happened at the metropolitan level in the U.S., but any effort at the national level would be sure to run into intense political opposition.

Clinton, for her part, seemed open to the idea.

"Australia is a good example, Canada is a good example, the U.K. is a good example. Why? Because each of them have had mass killings" she said. "Australia had a huge mass killing about 20, 25 years ago, Canada did as well, so did the U.K. And, in reaction, they passed much stricter gun laws."

Australia’s mandatory gun buyback program of semiautomatic and automatic rifles and shotguns was enacted after a shooter killed 35 people in 1996. The country bought back more than 650,000 weapons.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-gun-buybacks_56216331e4b02f6a900c5d67

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Hillary Clinton Says A National Gun Buyback Program Is 'Worth Considering' (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2015 OP
She will lose a ton of votes if Senator Sanders runs with this iamthe99 Oct 2015 #1
What? This is an excellent idea that has huge support and... JaneyVee Oct 2015 #12
This one is political kryptonite Report1212 Oct 2015 #2
First of all, it will never fly and she knows it tularetom Oct 2015 #3
for this month Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #4
Gun buy backs worked well in Washington State Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #5
Do you have some stats? Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #6
I am sure you can find them on line Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #8
I am not the one that made the statement Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #10
I live in WA and it was all over the news. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #13
Why are gun nutters opposed to voluntary participation programs like these? LonePirate Oct 2015 #7
I'm not so sure they are Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #9
I am not opposed to them Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #11
Voluntary is one thing Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #14
The Australia gun buy back program was compulsory - not voluntary. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #15
This is a way to get poor people to give up their guns while the real gun nutters will carry on Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #16
?Voluntary? forthemiddle Oct 2015 #17
If you want real feedback on this I have some limited insight. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #18
I wonder when the voices of urban and suburban voters will supplant those of rural voters LonePirate Oct 2015 #19
Never as long as there is a Senate. hack89 Oct 2015 #20
I have lived a lot of my life in both deep red rural and bright blue urban areas... Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #21
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
12. What? This is an excellent idea that has huge support and...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:22 PM
Oct 2015

Would actually work. It should be step 1: $200 a gun. It would probably net 10 million guns in 6 months.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. First of all, it will never fly and she knows it
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:06 PM
Oct 2015

Second of all, she doesn't mean it. It's just rhetoric to get her the nomination.

Once she is the nominee, you will never again hear the words "gun control" from her mouth. She'll be back to Annie Oakley Clinton, making her pitch to hard working white Americans.



Make no mistake, I oppose such a stupid proposal regardless of how she flip flops.
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
10. I am not the one that made the statement
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:15 PM
Oct 2015

It should be up to you to link to where you found the facts for the statement I think you pulled out of a dark place. How many were turned in? How many are in the state? Were they operational? How much did it cost per firearm? How many rifles and how many pistols? Did anybody get charged for a crime for stolen or weapons used in a crime?

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
13. I live in WA and it was all over the news.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:45 PM
Oct 2015

I am not obligated to give you any information. I know that it worked well in WA. And there has been talk of doing it again due to the success.

If you truly were interested, you could find out the information. If you just want to be snarky, you will continue your pattern of behavior.

Have a good night. Quack.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
7. Why are gun nutters opposed to voluntary participation programs like these?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:29 PM
Oct 2015

Are they only happy when the populace has more guns than they presently do?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
9. I'm not so sure they are
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:00 PM
Oct 2015

I like gun buybacks.

The only person who has ever been willing to overpay for a rusted out gun that hasn't fired in 20 years is the government.

I've got a few old guns in my safe, I'm just waiting for a buy back so I can get rid of them. I got 300 dollars that I put towards a new glock at the last buy back.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
11. I am not opposed to them
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:17 PM
Oct 2015

I have a broken 99 dollar Chinese pistol that is worth about 10 bucks. I will gladly turn it in so I can get a better one.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
14. Voluntary is one thing
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:55 AM
Oct 2015

The Australia program was not it was mandatory and was confiscation. I do not agree with that. Have all of the voluntary ones you want.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
16. This is a way to get poor people to give up their guns while the real gun nutters will carry on
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:33 AM
Oct 2015

I think it has some highly racist and classist motivation based on some types of people should be able to have guns but other should not. They can't actually get a way with making a law that says that, but this is a way to create a similar result by paying the poor to give up their guns.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
17. ?Voluntary?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

She said an Australian style buyback was worth considering. The problem is that the Australian buyback was MANDATORY!!!!!!!!

Does she remember just two years ago (after Sandy Hook) that Colorado RECALLED their legislatures over gun control measures that were MUCH tamer than mandatory buybacks. And remember Colorado is a swing state that she needs in the general election!
It's not just Colorado, a lot of the swing states are rural, hunting States that gun control will not stand. I am already hearing rumblings in mid Wisconsin where I live.

When people on this site get yelled at for repeating that mantra "they want to take your guns" it isn't paranoia any more. In this case "SHE WANTS TO TAKE YOUR GUNS!!!!"

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
18. If you want real feedback on this I have some limited insight.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:50 AM
Oct 2015

Growing up in Red America alongside some very pro gun friends who inherited their love of the military and hunting from their families has shown me that guns can be a deep part of a person's identity and belief system.

They have been taught to think and followingly deeply believe that the ultimate goal of the left is to take all their guns away for a variety of reasons. They see any attempt at even they will admit sensible gun legislation as just the start of a slippery slope toward that perceived goal.

Thus they dont want to give one inch. Not one. Even if the legislation makes sense to them. They just dont trust their perceived intentions of the left.

I personally strongly believe we need a national licensure system so that to own a gun you must have an active gun owning license and that all guns must have a national registration ID number. Every gun must be linked to a licensed owner and if not so linked it must be destroyed. The collection and destruction of such weapon could be done with a variety of means. Addtionally munition and reloading supplies should be only sold to licensed individuals.

With that said I do believe in the 2nd Amendement for what it is meant for, a well regulated militia and the licensure and registration is a part of that well regulation.

P.S. In accord with what I said above I would agree with a buy back system.

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
19. I wonder when the voices of urban and suburban voters will supplant those of rural voters
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:55 AM
Oct 2015

as the most powerful ones with regard to this issue. The urban/rural divide will only grow unless rural voters suddenly embrace the reality of the situation.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. Never as long as there is a Senate.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015

Wyoming has the same number of votes as NY when it comes to gun control.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
21. I have lived a lot of my life in both deep red rural and bright blue urban areas...
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
Oct 2015

And the cultural divide is huge. Huge. Proba ly one of the top ten cultural problems in America. I
We are truly a house divided.

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