2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat issue is more important to you? Gun control or regulating Wall Street?
The MSM says Hillary won the debate because Sanders stumbled on gun control but seem to gloss right over Hillary's answer on Wall Street when she said she told Wall Street to "Cut it out" before the big crash. Hillary is against re-instating Glass Steagall, Bernie is for it.
Don't believe me that this is a them from the MSM? Just check out what comes up with a search of "Hillary Clinton stumbles on Wall Street". https://www.google.com/#q=hillary+clinton+stumbles+on+wall+street Virtually nothing about Hillary's horrendous answer on WS and a crap load of articles on how Sanders stumbled on guns.
So lets settle where DU democrats fall on the importance of what seemed like the two major issues that each candidate seemed to score points on or stumble on. Gun control and regulating Wall Street.
Which issue and answer was more important to you?
In the comment section on a scale from 1 to 10 rank the importance of each issue to you.
For me:
Who would work harder to regulate Wall Street - 10
Who would work for more gun control - 2
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Bernie lost because he stumbled on gun control. Hillary was good on this issue! This issue is very important to me! | |
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Hillary lost because she stumbled on her Wall Street answers. Bernie was good on this issue! This issue is very important to me! | |
13 (87%) |
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Neither issue is that important to me | |
0 (0%) |
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Both are equally important to me | |
2 (13%) |
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Disagree with who was worse and better on each issue | |
0 (0%) |
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0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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marym625
(17,997 posts)We won't be able to change anything without money out of politics. Get rid of that and fighting the oligarchs and their gun toting lobbyists will be easy. Or at least easier
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Hillary is posturing too strong on guns. It could end up costing the general election. Gun people will turn out in record numbers to stop Hillary in the general.
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)How dare he be only for MOST gun control???? This is how fucking dumb the MSM thinks we are.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It wasn't long ago when gay rights were talked about in the exact same manner. It was often said that our Presidential candidates couldn't talk about it during the election because it would hurt them in the general. We all know it was bullshit and that many of them didn't talk about it because their thought weren't very kind. The grassroots movement moved popular opinion, leaders got on board, and society has since been rapidly changing since. I would say the grassroots movement, combined with mass shooting and needless deaths, now have us in the position where our leaders must join forces. Sanders fumbled the question. You don't run from an issue because someone fumbled. Overall, Sanders is not bad on guns and he himself disagrees with the premise of your op. Both of our top two can walk, chew gum, and hand gun nuts their ass.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)for me. I hope to see the second amendment repealed or at least reinterpreted.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Wall Street is out of control so to keep them in line we can let the gunners do it, they can open carry all over wall street with free reign to discharge their fire arms as necessary to enforce the laws.
Win/Win as I see it Wall Street is regulated and the gunners get to carry guns and shoot bad guys.
I know I have the wisdom of Solomon!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Especially when you include people like Martin 'Let them all die for lack of affordable drugs' Shkreli and his ilk.
Overall, Wall Street kills far more people. They just do it in sneakier ways, and 'legally'.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Of course I'm less gun control friendly than the NRA though my stance on guns is not a primary lens that I view politics through either.
I have my beliefs but I find the warring camps bizarre to have guns as a top 10 issue either way but for such people it has grown beyond an issue to tribal totems.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)The subject title of the OP is misleading.
Get rid of the "Hillary lost" and "Bernie lost" BS.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Go back and watch it.