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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:56 AM Oct 2015

It's official, Hillary Won the First Debate...

against Barack Obama. In 2007.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/apr/27/usa.uselections2008

Hillary Clinton emerged as the clear winner from the first debate between the Democratic candidates in the 2008 presidential race - ahead of her main rival Barack Obama - according to those present in the audience.


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It's official, Hillary Won the First Debate... (Original Post) berni_mccoy Oct 2015 OP
There is no Obama, this time around. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #1
Indeed.. not even close. DCBob Oct 2015 #6
So, it shouldn't be hard to accept that she won against Bernie nt 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #2
That fact been a source of consternation for some. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5
Both times rock Oct 2015 #3
Comparing the Vermont senator to Barack Obama is analogous to... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4
More debates!!!!!! What happened to the Bernie folks calling for more????? Walk away Oct 2015 #7
I seem to remember Robbins Oct 2015 #8
Ideology trumps reality? longship Oct 2015 #9
It's official. longship Oct 2015 #10
Wow, Obama looks like he can barely get into a bar... DanTex Oct 2015 #11

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. That fact been a source of consternation for some.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:03 AM
Oct 2015

In a previous post I elaborated on the genesis for this consternation and it resulted in a unjust hide so in a bow to discretion I will not do so again.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. Comparing the Vermont senator to Barack Obama is analogous to...
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:00 AM
Oct 2015

Comparing the Vermont senator to Barack Obama is analogous to comparing Richard Dunn to Muhammad Ali because they both were boxers.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
7. More debates!!!!!! What happened to the Bernie folks calling for more?????
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:06 AM
Oct 2015

I think we need to see more of this! Come on DNC let's add 3 or 4 more debates!

Hillary has a lot to say about the issues and Bernie seems happy to shout out his stump speech in the answer to any question!

Bernie people want it and I think the Democratic Party should be nice to it's guest and give Bernie more time behind the podium!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
8. I seem to remember
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:06 AM
Oct 2015

Obama won race and is In white house

maybe with all the flip-floping she will forget she ran in 2008

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Ideology trumps reality?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:23 AM
Oct 2015

I have no preference expressed in this Democratic primary here. But this post is utter bullshit.

Which candidate won the Democratic debate is irrelevant, unless one measures things by media metrics, which are decidedly not objective.

These debates are not to decide winners/losers, but to highlight the differences between candidates. No, it is not a perfect mechanism, but it is what it is.

Contrasting the GOP (so-called) debates the only decision one can make here is that any of the Democratic candidates are orders of magnitude above the GOP.

Yes! I have a preference for the 2016 presidential election. But I would prefer not to reveal it within these forums. Such is the toxic nature of such things. I would prefer not to plunge myself into that vat of necrotizing fasciitis.

I will support and vote for whoever the Democratic Party nominates.

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