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Just out of curiosity, who had you thought Rmoney would pick? (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 OP
Paw or Port; didn't know which. elleng Aug 2012 #1
Pawlenty did seem like the uber-safe pick OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #2
GMTA! I was convinced that talk of Ryan was a decoy to deflect us away from the real CTyankee Aug 2012 #38
Portman...was surprised when Ryan's name was mentioned. Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #3
Yes, Portman Freddie Aug 2012 #12
Yep Cosmocat Aug 2012 #15
I was almost certain it would be Rubio darkangel218 Aug 2012 #4
for me it was a toss-up between nobody cares and doesn't matter. unblock Aug 2012 #5
I thought he would give Newt donco Aug 2012 #6
I never thought he'd pick Ryan. Lugnut Aug 2012 #7
Wild Card dsteve01 Aug 2012 #8
In another post, I wrote the only pick I'd have feared was someone like Colin Powell OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #20
Colin Powell dsteve01 Aug 2012 #25
I didn't Give It Much Thought Until About A Month Ago DallasNE Aug 2012 #9
I really expected Portman. I don't really know why. nt Speck Tater Aug 2012 #10
Rubio. Basically can't win without FL. joshcryer Aug 2012 #11
I'd fully expected Rubio until June OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #19
I thought Portman or Rubio for the same reason... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #21
Thune TeamPooka Aug 2012 #13
I'd wondered about Thune OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #18
Cantor or Ryan whoever he thought would be a bigger dick to the working class Tribetime Aug 2012 #14
That seems to be the thought process they used OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #16
Tim Pawlenty - who I thought was the most competent WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #17
Ryan Inkfreak Aug 2012 #22
I figured that he'd probably go "dramatic" after Friday Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #23
Ryan doesn't excite too many non-Republicans OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #30
Exciting the base was something that Romney felt that he was having trouble doing Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #36
"my mom probably won't end up voting at all in November" OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #39
Portman, or if he was going to surprise us, Christie Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #24
Portman, until I heard that Ryan had bumped Jindal off of the 3 man extra short list Marsala Aug 2012 #26
I thought GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #27
His nose. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #28
Rmoney can pick his veep, and he can pick his nose, but he can't OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #32
They're saving that GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #35
If rMoney said "I'm going to stick my dick up your nose", rLyan would let him. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #40
That's one way GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #42
Nah, a Q-Tip is bigger. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #43
That's knowledge I can live without. GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #44
Face it, a handful of Viagra couldn't help rMoney - not that Ann would be interested anyway. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #45
As part of Ann Romney's GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #46
(Hint: Trafalca sired the kids) HopeHoops Aug 2012 #47
At first I thought he might try Condi but then switched to Ryan WI_DEM Aug 2012 #29
I was scared he was going to pick Susanna Martinez PlanetBev Aug 2012 #31
That would have been a shrewd pick OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #34
I guess GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #33
Portman until late last week. He was under tremendous pressure to choose Ryan. nt Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2012 #37
I thought Portman, unless he made a 'drama' move. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #41

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
2. Pawlenty did seem like the uber-safe pick
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:00 AM
Aug 2012

I think they're saving him to run against Franken in 2014.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
38. GMTA! I was convinced that talk of Ryan was a decoy to deflect us away from the real
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:29 PM
Aug 2012

choice. And Portman seemed so safe and so useful (Ohio). Paw, not so much...tax problems and that inconvenient bridge collapse.

I never thought Rubio had a chance...too young and inexperienced. Christie was just too scary to lots of voters, IMHO, as much as some repubs think he's god's gift.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
3. Portman...was surprised when Ryan's name was mentioned.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:04 AM
Aug 2012

But after that bad week of polling, it became clear he needed someone big or he was done. So...

Freddie

(9,273 posts)
12. Yes, Portman
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:39 AM
Aug 2012

Thought they were trying to bury the Plan to Kill Medicare, not put the man whose name is all over it front and center. A desperate move which will backfire (God willing).

Cosmocat

(14,568 posts)
15. Yep
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:47 AM
Aug 2012

Portman to give him a shot at Ohio and because he was solid/safe.

I will be honest, while the Ryan pick is getting panned, I think that if he kept dropping in the polls after picking Portman, he would have been panned for not going bigger.

I was pretty sure he wasn't going to pick him, and I know he has some baggage, too, but Rubio probably was the pick if he was going the route of having to boost his campaign - he has even more media love than Ryan without the baggage of actually putting the republican ideas pen to paper.

unblock

(52,309 posts)
5. for me it was a toss-up between nobody cares and doesn't matter.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:06 AM
Aug 2012

i mean, really.

vice-presidential candidate on the losing ticket is of consequence to footnote writers and that's about it.

donco

(1,548 posts)
6. I thought he would give Newt
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:10 AM
Aug 2012

the job of digging up a VP....and of course Newt would pick himself. Many sleepless nights in the WH if ….

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
7. I never thought he'd pick Ryan.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:10 AM
Aug 2012

I thought he was smarter than that but he's obviously not. The safe pick would have been Portman. I never even considered Rubio.

dsteve01

(312 posts)
8. Wild Card
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:30 AM
Aug 2012

Thought he was going to pick some random African American Legislature Lady from Chicago or something amazing.

Was his only chance to win.
All the current candidates sucked in their own way.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
20. In another post, I wrote the only pick I'd have feared was someone like Colin Powell
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:59 AM
Aug 2012

African American, General, perceived as politically moderate (and thus appealing to independents), someone who can plausibly argue to the public he was misled on the Iraq war...and someone who endorsed the President in '08. I'd also wondered if he might have tapped Linda Lingle from Hawaii.

dsteve01

(312 posts)
25. Colin Powell
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:35 AM
Aug 2012

Would make the whole 'battleship' thing look better in context.

But Collin Powell would never work for Mitt Romney, probably.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
9. I didn't Give It Much Thought Until About A Month Ago
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:38 AM
Aug 2012

My first cut was either Portman or Ryan. Portman had an advantage in that he was bland and would not show Romney up but he also had direct ties to the Bush budget. By default it was Ryan. (I expected it to be a budget guy).

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
11. Rubio. Basically can't win without FL.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:37 AM
Aug 2012

I did like the Rice suggestion (seemed plausible) but I didn't take it too seriously.

When I saw about Portman's Wikipedia page being edited I thought that was credible, but I never expected Ryan in a million years.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
19. I'd fully expected Rubio until June
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:55 AM
Aug 2012

In June, I started hearing GOP insiders using the term "safe pick", which was understood to exclude Rubio, as well as anyone from the Bachmann/Brewer/Sheriff Joe wing of the party.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
21. I thought Portman or Rubio for the same reason...
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:26 AM
Aug 2012

Either of them might have helped win a swing state, and Portman appeals to moderates while Rubio could make some inroads with Latino voters for future years.

Ryan is a wasted pick. They're going to lose the election and further alienate moderate and minority voters.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
18. I'd wondered about Thune
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:52 AM
Aug 2012

Few EVs in SD, but he's beloved by the party establishment, and a good attack dog.

Tribetime

(4,701 posts)
14. Cantor or Ryan whoever he thought would be a bigger dick to the working class
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:50 AM
Aug 2012

They seem to have a way of trying to out dick each other to see who can screw the working class the most.....I like that R money

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
16. That seems to be the thought process they used
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 07:51 AM
Aug 2012

Ryan wants to screw the working class and seniors. It's like hitting the exacta for the t-baggers.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
22. Ryan
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:34 AM
Aug 2012

There are dozens of posts questioning the intelligence of this choice. For me it seemed kinda like a given. He is what repubs want. A young "fresh" "energetic" conservative face to put on an old ugly party. With all the extreme amounts of $ these guys are pumping into defeating the Pres, I do not doubt they are gunning to win. Rubio was a close 2nd in my mind tho. Just my 2 cents.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
23. I figured that he'd probably go "dramatic" after Friday
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 08:36 AM
Aug 2012

If he was polling ahead or doing better than he was, he probably would have picked Portman but since he was behind, I figured that he'd need to go with Ryan.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
30. Ryan doesn't excite too many non-Republicans
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:56 AM
Aug 2012

He does shore up Tea Party support, and the campaing needs their money and organizational skills.

He may tip Wisconsin into the Rmoney column (and he may not).

However, the challenge both Rmoney and Obama face is actually getting people off their couches to come vote. I don't see how Ryan motivates anyone who wasn't already voting for Rmoney anyway.

I'm also not seeing rank & file Protestant, white, southern evangelicals being too thrilled about supporting a ticket with a Mormon and a Catholic. Especially when the guy at the head of the ticket has been a wishy-washy flip flopper on every issue they hold dear. I'm not saying they vote for Obama; I'm saying they may not be as motivated to do the phone banking and volunteering they've done for other GOP campaigns.

Ryan scares/concerns seniors with his medicare and SS stands. That may hurt Romney in Florida & Arizona. We'll see.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
36. Exciting the base was something that Romney felt that he was having trouble doing
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:09 PM
Aug 2012

enter Ryan. As to whether he will "excite" non-Republicans, that remains to be seen- though the pundits sure seem orgasmic about him being on the ticket. Romney's still the head of the ticket and he's still got a very big favorability gap with Obama that he's going to have to close. My hopelessly backwards fundie Republican mom doesn't like either of them, particularly after I explained Ryan's voucher plan, which she agreed would be unworkable (curiously, she believed that the vouchers were Obama's proposal until I set her straight). It sounds like my mom probably won't end up voting at all in November.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
39. "my mom probably won't end up voting at all in November"
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 12:59 PM
Aug 2012

I hear that increasingly, and I think that's really the explanation for why Rmoney's poll numbers have been bad. Make no mistake, there's a lot of anger with Barack Obama, but increasingly I hear people say they don't see how Rmoneyy will be any different/better, so they are staying home.

Marsala

(2,090 posts)
26. Portman, until I heard that Ryan had bumped Jindal off of the 3 man extra short list
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:40 AM
Aug 2012

That was a sign of momentum. Then I read Romney's words about a VP with a "vision for the country" on Thursday, which *screamed* Ryan though it was still hard to believe.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
46. As part of Ann Romney's
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 02:11 PM
Aug 2012

great unwashed, working stiff, middle-class doesn't count "you people", the only thing I want to see rising to the occasion is the release of his tax returns.

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
31. I was scared he was going to pick Susanna Martinez
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

Governor of New Mexico. Hispanic woman. Out of sheer desperation, I imagined that they would have tried to kill two birds with one stone.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
41. I thought Portman, unless he made a 'drama' move.
Tue Aug 14, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

then I figured Rubio or Ryan.

He really should have picked Portman or Pawlenty. They had a much easier image to meld with middle Americans.

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