2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf we don't quickly play up the Paul Ryan - Ayn Rand connection, we have only ourselves to blame...
This is really an amazing opportunity we've been handed. Although lots of modern-day Republicanism has been based on Rand's "thought," the G.O.P. has always been careful to distance its leadership from a connection with someone whose opinions, however championed by an extreme minority, remain toxic to the average American.
Voters of a religious bent, who still make up a sizable majority in this country, will likely be offended by Rand's militant atheism and insistence that religious teachings, no matter their content, are inherently evil. (And some might well wonder how a political figure who claims to be a devout Catholic can champion someone with such total contempt for what should be his bedrock beliefs.) But even those more secular are like as not to be repulsed by Rand's insistence that "rational" selfishness is the only moral behavior, that altruism is always immoral, and that those who are not wealthy, powerful, physically-beautiful exponents of her philosophy are contemptible sheep who thoroughly deserve their certain doom.
One of Rand's traditional comebacks is that people's revulsion toward her and her philosophy is a badge of honor, because such people, unable to rebut her self-evidently true ideas, resort to hysterical, unthinking appeals to emotion to avoid facing facts and admitting that her philosophy is truly rational. In one sense, she's right -- not about her philosophy being rational, or that it cannot be logically rebutted, because it certainly and rather easily can. But in that most people, even before getting to the stage of rationally finding the flaws in her arguments, are struck with the gut feeling that her philosophy is "cruel" and "evil." (And, at the risk of temporarily finding myself in agreement with George W. Bush, sometimes intuitive reactions are dead-on.) As I said before, however much the Republican agenda has been influenced by Ayn Rand for the past thirty or more years, the G.O.P. has always been careful to distance themselves from her teachings. For once, this is now impossible. If we don't play this up, immediately -- before people have had a chance to absorb the G.O.P. spinmeisters' presentation of Ryan -- and tar him with the Rand brush in the minds of the voters, we thoroughly deserve a loss in November, for this is an opportunity to ensure the Republican ticket is as toxic as she has long been to the majority of Americans.
msongs
(67,438 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...which is why we need to make sure everyone finds out about her, and make her Paul Ryan's shadow.
Cosmocat
(14,568 posts)Everyone here gets what you are saying, but 90% of the rest of the country has no clue who Rand is.
There is only so much you can address in a campaign.
While I would LOVE to see this little shit held to account for his insider trading stuff of this stuff, it is secondary to his budget overall and his medical/SS plans in specific.
Hit him that he has not credibility as a BUDGET CONSCIOUS LEADER for voting for the Bush disasters.
Hit him for his budget not balancing until 2040.
Hit him for coming out in the open about destroying medicare and SS.
That is what the focus has to be because it is both REALLY important and also REALLY close to the hearts of voters.
The 55% of people who might actually have the common sense to vote for their interests don't give a shiite about Rand.
PayAttentionFool
(57 posts)I have also run into teahadists and pubs who say they are fans of rand but have never even read the books, not even the cliff notes version.
It all boils down to god, guns and no gays for them.
MIDNITERIDER1438
(113 posts)But maybe we can get him lost in Nietzsche, who I heard never reconciled with his faith...
Ry-Ann was on the fellow propagandist Glen Beck show slamming the progressive movement as being born in Wisconsin by "some Germans" and agreeing with Beck that it's a "cancer" on society (see "The Ed Show" on MSNBC, the url was too long to post here, they've revised their website).
So perhaps when he raises Dostoyevsky, we can slam him with Kierkegaard and drive him to a Nietzsche-like moral breakdown (he's almost there already) !
LynnTTT
(362 posts)My plan is to wait for people to say, "Well so what if he is a fan of Ayn Rand". Then I'll say: "That's like saying St Francis was a fan of Jesus. Ryan has stated that his reading of Ayn Rand is the reason he entered politics. Ayn Rand is the basis of his life and thought."
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)a few sound bytes