2016 Postmortem
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I used to think it was stupid when people said of a candidate, "He's the kind of guy you'd like to have a beer with" as though that was somehow an important part of governance.
But just let me say that having a beer with Joe Biden is officially on my bucket list. I love the guy.
And, Joe, I'm buying!
liberal N proud
(60,339 posts)4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)for decades. I've had the pleasure of meeting him and hearing him speak to the party faithful behind closed doors, cameras off.
He's the working-man's real deal.
whathehell
(29,082 posts)My dad, who was a yellow dog dem, but somewhat cynical about pols in general,
met him on the Amtrack once and liked him a lot.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts),,,,,, The GOP has become the largest organized group on Bigots and Hate Mongers in this Country...... Give em Hell Joe,,,, tell em like it is!
whathehell
(29,082 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)and then cutting Medicare, Medicaid and education.
whathehell
(29,082 posts)and I wasn't at all surprised that Joe said it first. I hope it's repeated endlessly!
no_hypocrisy
(46,160 posts)woodsprite
(11,923 posts)Haven't had a beer with him, but have been to a ballgame with him.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)but I'd have a beer with Joe!
Freddie
(9,273 posts)And I *don't* want to have a Grape Crush with Mittens!
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)to sit down and have a beer with both Obama and Biden. Maybe some of that WH brew
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)he is a BFD.
FightForMichigan
(232 posts)Biden is going to tear Ryan to shreds in the debate and use a tattered copy of Atlas Shrugged to mop Ryan's tears off the floor.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Now I just love him for himself.
wryter2000
(46,077 posts)IMHO, the sexiest thing about a man is his smile, and Biden has the best smile in the world.
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)but you shouldda seen him back then!
For some reason he came to speak in my part of NJ, and I was the reporter that the local paper sent to cover him.
Talk about eye candy!
PatSeg
(47,567 posts)Some of us refer to him as the "Silver Fox". That is one good looking man! And he has a whole lot of heart.
classof56
(5,376 posts)BIG
SunSeeker
(51,661 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)sa2968
(38 posts)Lugnut
(9,791 posts)TahitiNut
(71,611 posts)He's one of a vanishingly small number of "public servants" in elected office these days. He's almost a 'throwback' to the post-WW2 era when returning GIs saw, up close and personal, what happens when people with genuine and egalitarian public interest don't get involved in their own political systems.
Sometimes, in a democracy, we actually get better than we deserve. Biden is an example.
gateley
(62,683 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)You rock.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)very few politicians I would give a rat's fig about meeting.
I just hope he doesn't hold back on Ryan like he did on Palin. He was way more courteous to that eggplant in heels than she deserved.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Love it!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)And he's also REALLY smart. Never forget that Uncle Joe was chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, which was one of the reasons that Obama picked him -- to give some foreign affairs experience and gravitas to the ticket. Joe would have made a great Sec of State. I think he was wasted as a VP, given that the 112th congress is simply fucked by the Party of Obstruction. Joe is not only a great democrat, but also a great feminist. He sponsored the first anti-violence against women act. Joe Biden was my 1st choice in the 2008 dem primaries, followed by Hilary, followed by Obama. If both Joe and Hilary decide to run in the 2016 primaries, I shall be sorely taxed to choose between them. But aren't we progressives lucky to have such excellent people on our side? Especially when compared to the midgets and liars of today's GOP.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)I always like him even when I disagreed with him like on Iraq.He just has way about him.He often has what the Media calls Gaffe
when he says what he thinks.That makes him relatable.
avebury
(10,952 posts)hamsterjill
(15,223 posts)Because I love me some Joe!!!
LiberalLoner
(9,762 posts)FredStembottom
(2,928 posts).... He was my choice for pres .... A couple times!
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)Inuca
(8,945 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)CanonRay
(14,112 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)As a person I guess I'd say that I like him quite a bit. I haven't met him. But his vision and straight talk? Heck yeah.
Edit to add:
Talking about shackles... debt is a shackle, it really is. Everyone needs financial freedom.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)But choosing Joe was one of the best things he ever did (plus Hillary is an awesome S of S).
Joe is our secret weapon. He will destroy Lyin' Ryan in the debates. Plus the likability factor alone--sweet Joe vs. that weaseley-eyed worm.
BlueMTexpat
(15,372 posts)RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)A real American hero!
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)So many politicians try to be that but Joe really is. He is not a gaffe-machine to me like the media says. He says what he really feels and is not over polished and robotic like so many politicians are today (Romney and Ryan specifically).
LeFleur1
(1,197 posts)Joe is honest and he makes honest statements. They are often not sugar coated or twisted enough for some. He's a refreshing change from all the goobledegook, carefully scripted, twisted garbage out there.
marlakay
(11,484 posts)I like that he rode the train, that his wife teaches at community college. They have always kept in touch with real people. Most politicians get swallowed up by their own and lobbyists.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I love his weakness for telling the unvarnished truth. He's still a Regular Joe and you gotta love that.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)What you see with Joe is what you get. Bless you, Joe.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,806 posts)bayareaboy
(793 posts)It is true, but also look to what the problems he has had, and you can figure he is pretty much Superman as well. That is kind of guy I want to have a drink with, or whatever.
Didn't Harry Truman once say to the opposition that he wouldn't have to tell the truth about the RePUGs if they didn't keep telling lies about him?
To me Joe is a lot like Mr Truman.
brightertomorrow
(122 posts)He has a lot of heart and a real passion for the people, something so seldom found today in politicians. I think he was extra courteous to Palin in the VP debate, but I think you will see a much more aggressive debate with Ryan.
Bake
(21,977 posts)I have not forgiven him for his MBNA connection and his bankruptcy "reform" re student loans. Joe, you fucked up there!
Bake
ozsea1
(36 posts)would be a BIG FUCKING DEAL !!!!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)He does a great job. Better than the last guy who was in there, that's for sure.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)haha
I'd much rather have this guy in the VP office than hairdoo or lipstick pitbull hockey mom.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)that someone on Biden's staff disclosed that Joe thinks Jason Sudekis' impression on Saturday Night Live is hilarious.
Yet another reason I like the guy.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)pass the White House home brew.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,749 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)cleduc
(653 posts)and lovin' every minute of it!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Maybe if Mitt wants to understand the challenges of working mothers, he might want to talk Jill.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)I'm glad he's not apologizing to the recent kerfluffle Romney is squawking about with chains.
Got a lot of nerve that guy.
BigAnth
(320 posts)I don't think that Joe drinks beer or any other alcoholic beverages. I rode the Amtrak with him once from Wilmington to DC but didn't get to meet him.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)From the NYTimes: "Senator Biden does not drink at all, and he is frank about the reason. There are enough alcoholics in my family, he said last month as he sipped cranberry juice on a train ride from Washington to Wilmington."
So I'll have a beer with Joe, and he can have a cranberry juice with me. I'm still buying, and not just because Joe would be a cheap date!
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)Blue Owl
(50,489 posts)He just needs to lighten up parroting the phony war on drugs bit, otherwise he's gold.
onestepforward
(3,691 posts)PatSeg
(47,567 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)Rain Mcloud
(812 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)I hear the White House is now serving up some suds!
CBHagman
(16,987 posts)Say what you will about him, he comes off as genuinely friendly. Warmth in a VP? Such a concept for the post-Cheney era!
And Biden works well with others.
trayfoot
(1,568 posts)Keep being the "Joe" we all know and love!
Pauldg47
(640 posts)......he is a great speaker and great person.
flakey_foont
(3,338 posts)yeah!
hwmnbn
(4,279 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)I love Joe!
carolinayellowdog
(3,247 posts)but sure am sorry I was not there to cheer him on when he said it!
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Biden said his father taught him that "a job is about more than a pay check. Its about a place in the community. Its about dignity."
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)eissa
(4,238 posts)I thought he was the perfect pick for Obama in '08, and haven't changed my mind since. He's the perfect compliment to Obama, and I think helps the ticket immensely. I love his heart; I may not agree with every position he's taken (particularly on Iraq), but I believe he always looks out for the little guy. He's the absolute antithesis of the last VP.
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raging moderate
(4,308 posts)I don't drink beer, but I would love to meet him!
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)He's one BFD!!!!!!!!!! for our country.
penndragon69
(788 posts)The right man in the right place for history!
riverbendviewgal
(4,253 posts)such a great, smart, loyal, and funny guy. I would love to have a beer with him.
Pakid
(478 posts)I wish he would come on up and visit us here in Western PA. And yes I will buy.
jillan
(39,451 posts)The Wizard
(12,547 posts)lolamio
(542 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)persona...I Joe!!!
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,237 posts)cachukis
(2,262 posts)Special Prosciuto
(731 posts)handmade34
(22,757 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I'd like to take a train ride with Biden. I don't care for beer, I love trains....
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He is a man who knows loss in his family and has lots of compassion.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Pat Riot
(446 posts)Liked him from the start.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Today's attacks against him are a desperation move and don't affect any Obama/Biden fan.
The repubs screwed up their choice again, so of course, as predicted and predictable as they are, today they are attacking Joe.
pathetic the way repubs/tea/libertarians act.
Mitt is definitely unhinged.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)NeverEnuff
(147 posts)Its about time they took the gloves off. Maybe they ( The PotUs and VPotUs) finally realize you can't be reasonable with unreasonable people.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)He has always been one of those Democrats that always seemed to say outloud what I was thinking at the time.
wellstone dem
(4,460 posts)Just saying. And I'll buy for both of you.
DFW
(54,436 posts)He really IS the guy I would want to have a beer with--and I HATE beer!
For the sake of nostalgia, I'll put up a link to a post I put up on the old DU in the summer of 2008:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6699328#6700175
MAN did I get shit for posting that Biden was Obama's choice before it was announced!! But I couldn't say how I knew. I guess I can now, as most of the players have moved on. Here's what happened:
My younger nephew was interning with the Texas Democrats in Washington, and they were located right next to the DNC, so he knew who a LOT of DC staffers were. He was small for his age (then 17), and has strong Asian features (mother is from Japan). He swam every morning at a pool that was also frequented by some of the Congressional staffers. One morning, he was swimming, and two women from Biden's staff were excitedly discussion the impending announcement, probably figuring my nephew was some young child of an Asian immigrant who knew little to no English. Surprise!!
He immediately called me to let me know, and I posted, if somewhat hedging my bets, on DU. Of course, I didn't want to get anyone in trouble, so I said nothing of my source. My nephew is now interning for the US in a hotspot embassy in North Africa, having been a top student in Arabic in college, and Joe Biden is indeed now Vice-President.
How times change!
NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)boomerbust
(2,181 posts)Can't wait for the debates
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I am really happy he's running with Pres O again.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)highplainsdem
(49,028 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)MsPithy
(809 posts)He speaks to real people. He survived a devastating tragedy and made a good life for his family. He is not driven by acquiring power, but by the good he can do for Americans. I respect him.
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Some times though, I smack my forehead when I hear what he said. Simple mistakes which could have easily been made by anyone... but... for God's sake Joe, get some rest.
I don't imagine he's sleeping very well, or often. Everyone knows the smears against him are BS - even the republicans know it. Still... man, it's Virgina, not North Carolina. Shackles, not chains.. delivery, man... delivery. Reminds me of that joke about a Priest who drinks too much vodka before giving a sermon. (He was "thrown from his mule", not "stoned off his ass"..."We do not refer to the virgin mother as "Mary with the cherry"
Alduin
(501 posts)I don't love Joe Biden like I love my girlfriend and my family.
I like the guy, but I don't love him.
ribrepin
(1,726 posts)His gaffes make him more human
calimary
(81,440 posts)LOVE Joe Biden and Dr. Jill Biden too! I LOVE seeing her and Michelle Obama together at various events. Two completely gorgeous women, inside AND out.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Until a few months ago didn't really give him much thought. But, he has moved the national dialog forward, beautifully. I can see why Obama picked him out of a very large pool of qualified people. So, I guess that makes me a relatively new fan.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)iloveObama12
(421 posts)mikekohr
(2,312 posts)crybabies.
NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)I prefer Joe un-muzzled.
I have always enjoyed and admired Joe.
He is well enough off, but he could have become extraordinarily wealthy considering how long he has been in politics. Money has never been a driving force for him.
His son, Beau, is another good guy. Keep an eye on him.
(Sorry I came to this OP so late. Just came across it.)