I also made it clear I don't have solid thoughts here. That is why I am asking. As a Sanders supporter, you don't have to act like you like "Uncle Joe" and his ideology. lol. The op was really pretty simple. Do you have any thoughts of your own on his recent comments? Thanks.

And you must have missed it, but Sander supporters and Clinton supporters have been calling it absurd at this point. There is no stretch in claiming both supporters are getting frustrated at your Uncle Joe.

But as for your point #5, not sure I agree. I have seen more articles about Bernie in M$M recently regardless. Some attacking, some mocking, and a few that honestly present his positions.

is a minute not being spent on other things. Not saying Sanders would be guaranteed to fill that void. I don't discount that I am very wrong on any of my points. But it is reality that every second spent on speculation about him and the primary is a second not being spent on other things.

Sound bites. Probably taken out of context as well.

They are an embarrassment. Complete embarrassment.

As proof that there are a lot of the middle of the road Dems who are not enchanted with h.

2 separate groups of people have tried to get 2 candidates to run against her.

I don't mind this at all. It shows me people are not happy with choice A.

IMO, Joe's not running but is doing HRC a BIG favor by floating it hard this week.

So much of it isn't making sense to me. I really don't think he would be making these comments if he was going to run. But when nothing makes sense to me I think this is a great place to ask the question. Thanks LS.

if he were not. The chief of the big firefighter's union is on TV saying he's spoken with Biden and believe he will run. It's always possible that he has been lead by Biden into making a bit of a fool of himself publicly, but that is probably unlikely.

As for friendly remarks about the GOP, people WANT an end to the divisions and return to government that governs. Biden wants people to believe he can do what Obama tried but failed to do. Who knows, maybe it's finally time. All things in their time, after all, and everyone's getting tired of those Rethugs except the Koch-types.

The Firefighter Union thing is interesting. I find it even more interesting that they only have interest in endorsing two of our current candidates. Specially when public service jobs like this are right in Sanders wheelhouse. So much of this isn't making sense. I also don't think he has taken any shots at Clinton. Not really anyway. Praising Cheney isn't a shot at anyone or anything except common sense.

maybe they do. But they have to be practical and use their endorsement in a way that is most likely to benefit the union. Obviously they feel Bernie is not likely to win the primary, even with their endorsement. If Bernie does win the primary, though, he'll inherit their support.

To Joe being loved is being self actualized. As long as folks are talking about him he feels loved.

I truly hope he is comforted by all of the support he receives. Soon much of that support is going to turn into dissention. From all angles. I would hate to see that for Joe. I have no idea what he is doing at this point. I do think there is more to this.

They were signaling to Joe that they were going to use it if he ran, as a means of deterring him. So he brought it up as a "Oh yeah? Didn't work!" Both are stupid for thinking it means a damn thing.

And he's feeding his ego with all of this attention.

on Thursday. If Hillary is still looking good he won't throw his hat in the ring?

If he wants to run, then by all means run. But this coy bullshit while sniping from the sidelines has got to stop.

In or Out.

Specially considering he has access to some of the best campaign advisors in the world. I hate to go conspiracy as I am but he really isn't leaving much choice. I don't think you are alone in your headline. I might be wondering if it is something else when really what we are seeing is just "good ole Joe." I'm not often left scratching my head in politics like I am here.

his candidacy, lol.

but he seems to be kinda acting like someone who is running. he has never been such a "in front of camera" guy. we have sometimes gone weeks even months without any major biden news/quotes...so why now? along with all of the "he will announce in x hours" seems like a lot of hype if the answer is no.

i wonder if he is trying (not effectively imo) to lay the groundwork for support of either tpp and/or kxl?

I hate to go this far conspiracy, I like to have a little to back me up, but there is something else going on in my opinion. I just don't get how anyone is on board with some of his recent comments.

protecting obamas legacy blah blah....i think tpp is involved, just a hunch

two things at least. That he is the same guy who lost previous primary attempts with his own words. And no, the media cuts no Dem candidate any slack unless that Dem is damaging another Dem.

The second thing is that the risky passive gambit of not attending the first debate failed. Pack it in for anything except a forlorn hope. He might just as well withdraw from any attempt at active campaigning, available only as "Dark Horse" in the eventuality of some meltdown or other. In the final question though, if the party was going to desperately clutch at a non candidate why would he be the first choice anyway? Name recog only? The white male duffer vote?

Announced candidates in an open election and the one unannounced seem to suggest an extreme poverty overall of talent or names or nerve. Webb and Chaffee in the current feeble math of offerings make themselves look even worse and consequently the silence of the huge numbers of Democratic leaders. Past campaigns seemed more vibrant with at least a trio well into the primaries.

Now with pathetic polling angst or media idiocy we are left teetering, supposedly, before a single vote is even cast, between a coronation and a possible discussion of earth shaking issues. Are we merely the auxiliary of the GOP to give them hope in their darkest hour?

Final rant. The sensation that constantly arises in the gut, regardless of the ephemeral nonsense of primary enthusiasms and despair is whether with all the natural advantages goodness will fall with a will before the joyful hogs of our vilest corrupt minorities. Maybe people felt this anxiety during WWII but that war we were all trying hard to win. We have supposed leadership that seems no longer capable of trying with too few exceptions. It is not just one candidate or the other but the thinness that is so unnecessary, so gifting to the evils.

I think the risky gambit comment in your second paragraph is kind of what I am thinking. Yet the comments came after the debate. Maybe, on a very personal level, he wanted much different debate results. When I say results I am simply referencing the image candidates produced and propaganda that always follows a debate.

Why have I been shy about mentioning the thoughts you shared in your second paragraph? If true, it shows a side of Biden we don't often see. The manner in which he himself has leaked certain very personal things over the last two months would really be a reference on his character if he is playing it safe on the sidelines and watching the direction of those already in.

His conflict generates frustration, which generates "inelegant" statements.
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I also think that Trump on SNL means he will be dropping out, too. Both Gore and McCain hosted SNL knowing they were NOT going to run again.

I think corporate media tends to be WAY wrong about most things, and sometimes DU follows them blindly.