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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 10:57 AM Oct 2015

BOOM! - Hillary Clinton, just now: “We need leadership at home to match our leadership abroad.”

Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 13 minutes ago

"We need leadership at home to match our leadership abroad.
Leadership that puts national security ahead of politics and ideology."
—Hillary

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton


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BOOM! - Hillary Clinton, just now: “We need leadership at home to match our leadership abroad.” (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
" to match our leadership abroad." marmar Oct 2015 #1
Yeah. haikugal Oct 2015 #3
She was talking about Ambassador Stevens. nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #4
Message to Congress too. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #5
Yes,it's a reference to the GOP voting against funding.nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #6
I agree. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #40
That sounds like a shot to Obama LMFAO! JRLeft Oct 2015 #2
So overthrowing elected governments, invading nations illegally FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #7
I see people are jumping on this quote without knowing the context. William769 Oct 2015 #8
It should be up to the OP to provide context. A 140 character tweet Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #35
Using the us military to kill hundreds of thousands of poor defenseless people is not leadership it YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #9
^^^This!^^^ bvar22 Oct 2015 #10
And that person is no longer with us. Just saying. nt William769 Oct 2015 #11
"Just saying"..... bvar22 Oct 2015 #14
Did you feel that way about John Kerry or just Hillary? AndreaCG Oct 2015 #22
"Again, "just saying"....WHAT? bvar22 Oct 2015 #32
Yabbadabbado sheshe2 Oct 2015 #36
Doesn't mean the post was wrong. Just saying. nt artislife Oct 2015 #38
Yes. Zorra Oct 2015 #12
She likes to cluster bomb brown people. artislife Oct 2015 #15
their posting~ sheshe2 Oct 2015 #33
Whose? artislife Oct 2015 #37
I see who, now artislife Oct 2015 #39
Exactly jfern Oct 2015 #19
You too: Did you say this when Kerry ran for president? AndreaCG Oct 2015 #23
I opposed him in the primary jfern Oct 2015 #24
She's a megalomaniac warmonger. JRLeft Oct 2015 #26
I did some Googling AndreaCG Oct 2015 #27
She just called for it after Russia started flying planes in Syria jfern Oct 2015 #28
Thanks for the article AndreaCG Oct 2015 #29
Obviously Putin isn't our friend jfern Oct 2015 #30
Their posting ... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #34
I agree. 99Forever Oct 2015 #13
Go ahead. Put one of the craven, idiotic Rs in the presidency. AndreaCG Oct 2015 #16
You realize, perhaps, that we don't vote directly for President Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #17
I did not address you who lives in a red state AndreaCG Oct 2015 #20
I'm not being defeatist Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #25
I don't vote for Republicans. Ever. 99Forever Oct 2015 #31
I watched heads up Oct 2015 #18
Things go BOOM with Hillary foreign policy jfern Oct 2015 #21
It has a sort of presidential truthiness to it, but does it really mean anything? reformist2 Oct 2015 #41

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
7. So overthrowing elected governments, invading nations illegally
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

expolitating every corner of the planet for their resources is now called "leadership". OKIE DOKIE!

William769

(55,146 posts)
8. I see people are jumping on this quote without knowing the context.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 11:32 AM
Oct 2015

Maybe if you all were watching the hearing you would understand the quote.

But I see some want nothing more that to take cheap shots. Got it.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
9. Using the us military to kill hundreds of thousands of poor defenseless people is not leadership it
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 11:41 AM
Oct 2015

Is murder.

American "leadership" needs to stand trial for war crimes

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
10. ^^^This!^^^
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 12:38 PM
Oct 2015

"Using the us military to kill hundreds of thousands of poor defenseless people is not leadership it is murder."

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
14. "Just saying".....
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:13 PM
Oct 2015

What are you trying to just say?
Why so cryptic?

Go ahead and finish your sentence.

I have been just saying that everyone who voted FOR or helped Bush start the illegal war,
or helped to cover up the War Crimes committed by the Bush Administration
is an accessory to the War Crimes.


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
32. "Again, "just saying"....WHAT?
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:06 PM
Oct 2015

Can you write simple, declarative sentences expressing your opinion?
or do you fantasize you are Perry Mason.

Come On.
Don't cop out with a "just saying.
Say what YOU mean....and mean what you say.
What do YOU believe.
I am not interested in innuendo promoted by asking leading questions.
In fact, that kind of a response is RUDE on a Discussion Board.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. She likes to cluster bomb brown people.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

And send brown children back across the border.

This brown person is watching her actions.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
19. Exactly
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:55 AM
Oct 2015

We could use a lot less of Hillary's "leadership" abroad. We're sick of the endless wars in the middle east. That $2 trillion Iraq war led to the creation of ISIS. She spewed lies about a Saddam Al Qaeda connection without even bothering to read the intelligence reports. The Chair of the Senate Intelligence Commitee, Bob Graham said every Senator should read it. He voted no. I want someone who does their damn job and at least reads the damn intel before voting for a $2 trillion war.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
23. You too: Did you say this when Kerry ran for president?
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:02 AM
Oct 2015

Cause maybe my memory is faulty but I don't remember democrats bringing it up then.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
24. I opposed him in the primary
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:08 AM
Oct 2015

And held my nose in the general to vote for him. And no, he didn't claim there was an Iraq Al Qaeda connection. Even Joe Lieberman said that wasn't proven. But Hillary stated it as fact. And Kerry later voted against Kyl-Lieberman, which allowed Bush to start an Iran war. Hillary voted for that. And today Hillary wants a "no fly zone" where Russian planes are fly. Obama, Bernie, and presumably Kerry oppose that.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
27. I did some Googling
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:40 AM
Oct 2015

And you are correct that she made the Iraq Al Qaeda connection. I tried to see if she had retracted that but my computer wasn't opening the articles I wanted to see. I'm not quite sure what your no fly zone comment meant as it wasn't complete. I will look into this a little further another day. However even if her foreign policy is poor, she still is ahead of the least bad of the republicans (Pataki?) in many ways and the ones leading the pack are nightmare inducing.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
29. Thanks for the article
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 04:22 AM
Oct 2015

I detest Putin but wouldn't want to test him without allies in Europe willing to back me up.

I found Obama's comment very interesting. I've mentioned before how I won a dinner with him last year. Prior to that the only person I know who met him was a journalist friend who interviewed him prior to 2008 and said he was the second most unpleasant politician he had ever interviewed. He used the term arrogant, which might be racist except my friend is black too and hardly the self loathing type. It made me reluctant to support Obama for a long time. Yet I don't hear anyone outside the RW horror chamber call him arrogant. People can evolve.

I will have to think about how Hillary will actually conduct her foreign policy. It surely won't be worse than the R candidates, but is it enough to switch my vote in the primary?

jfern

(5,204 posts)
30. Obviously Putin isn't our friend
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 04:27 AM
Oct 2015

but shooting down Russian planes in Syria seems like a very bad idea.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
16. Go ahead. Put one of the craven, idiotic Rs in the presidency.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 11:03 PM
Oct 2015

That'll show the American people what they deserve if they don't feel the Bern.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. You realize, perhaps, that we don't vote directly for President
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:43 AM
Oct 2015

We can only vote for electors, based on our state's number of Representative and Senators. My own state has only voted for a Democratic ticket if it has included at least one Southerner, since the 1940s. The only time my vote (if I had been allowed to vote) would have had a chance to make a difference since that time was in 1968, when it was pretty close between Hubert Humphrey and George Wallace.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
20. I did not address you who lives in a red state
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:56 AM
Oct 2015

And I bet you have no idea whether the poster I did address lives in a red, blue or purple state. However, one of the chief complaints against Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the other leaders of the DNC is that they no longer follow Howard Dean's 50 state strategy, which resulted in some wins in states that had been previously written off. Instead of telling people like you who lives in a red state to forget about voting because your vote will never count, we must get every Democrat and also independents to the polls in all the states, in every election. There are some states which a democratic presidential candidate hasn't won in eons, but a senator or governor or house member has. Or state or local officials. You're being defeatist, which is what the elites want in an electorate.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
25. I'm not being defeatist
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:16 AM
Oct 2015

I have voted in just about every election I have been qualified for, and that dates back to the '70s. But in the last presidential election, Obama didn't have an ice cube's chance of winning the state, and there was almost nothing on the ballot between county races and the presidential race-- just token opposition to an entrenched Republican representative. Elections for all of our state offices are now held in mid-term years. But I still vote in every election I am aware of and qualified for.

 

heads up

(55 posts)
18. I watched
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:52 AM
Oct 2015

this show on PBS, right before we started hearing about this ISIS on the teevee. These guys main beef was that they were only getting uniforms, rifles and boots. They wanted heavier weapons. Thanks Barack! Thanks Hillary!



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

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