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MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:04 AM Oct 2015

Third Way and Democratic Primaries

Last time I looked, there were three OPs in GD with "Third Way" in the title. That got me curious. For the life of me, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who supports Hillary Clinton ever mention that organization. It only seems to get mentioned by her opponents. I've never visited the website of that group.

So, I went to the organization's website, just now, and navigated to a page that showed the leadership of Third Way. I didn't recognize a single name there, nor have I ever seen anything written by any of them posted here on DU. Maybe I'm just a political novice, and these people are somehow "movers and shakers" I've just somehow missed hearing about.

Go look for yourself:

http://www.thirdway.org/about#leadership

Anyone there whose opinion you care about? Not me. Looks to me like Third Way is just another website with opinions about politics. I think I'll form my own opinions. The leadership of Third Way doesn't impress me at all. I think I'll look at opinions from people I've heard of and who are leaders in their own right.

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Third Way and Democratic Primaries (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2015 OP
Seriously - You Are Politically Naive cantbeserious Oct 2015 #1
Those people have nothing to do with the day-to-day operations. MineralMan Oct 2015 #3
They Are The Board Of Trustees - They Do Have Responsibilities - Face Palm cantbeserious Oct 2015 #9
You don't recogzine the name Thurgood Marshall Jr? Jeepers! Famous Dad, son in the prison biz... Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #60
I would not call it naive PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #6
Third Way was by founded in 2005 by former staffers who worked in the Clinton administration think Oct 2015 #2
OK. I'm still not seeing any evidence that they have any MineralMan Oct 2015 #7
After the DLC was exposed for the corporate shill organization it was I suppose not think Oct 2015 #24
Yeah, it's weird. Hillary haters are obsessed with this group. Most Hillary supporters, like me, DanTex Oct 2015 #4
Then you don't care about the issues because they are direct outgrowth of Clinton Inc. Armstead Oct 2015 #8
I care about the issues. I don't care what people at Third Way say. DanTex Oct 2015 #11
Then you wonlt have any insights into the fundamental diffrences going in Armstead Oct 2015 #16
I'm not impressed by the "six degrees of Hillary Clinton" game. DanTex Oct 2015 #23
Okay fine Dan. Just keep pounding away at an NRA donation to one of Sandrs opponents in the 90's Armstead Oct 2015 #25
IN case you care to actually below the surface Armstead Oct 2015 #21
I've never SEEN anything Third Way has said. MineralMan Oct 2015 #10
I couldn't name anyone who works at Third Way without going to that link. DanTex Oct 2015 #12
That's what I thought when I went there. MineralMan Oct 2015 #14
Yes they are all just nerds in a little office in omaha Armstead Oct 2015 #19
Enlightening read Go Vols Oct 2015 #43
Well, there you go. tecelote Oct 2015 #56
You're right One of the 99 Oct 2015 #20
Bilge Armstead Oct 2015 #5
Seriously - You Are Politically Naive - Redux cantbeserious Oct 2015 #13
Sure they are.... Segami Oct 2015 #15
I'd keep it hushed up as possible too. Show too much brass and the house of cards falls. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #17
Most of their policies agree completely with the progressive left. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #18
Triangulation Armstead Oct 2015 #22
+10000 Segami Oct 2015 #26
Well said. /nt think Oct 2015 #27
Governing req uires compromise. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #28
It's not a matter of working with them or not. It's what candidate's views do they represent Armstead Oct 2015 #48
We are electing a government, and it is about governing. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #49
Wall Street has a friend in Hillary and not Bernie, this is a fact. 3rd way or no 3rd way. lets randys1 Oct 2015 #29
You are not this stupid, nor this politically unaware. jeff47 Oct 2015 #30
I am exactly who I appear to be in my posts. MineralMan Oct 2015 #31
No, you run about 3 different personas depending on the point you want to make. jeff47 Oct 2015 #33
I think you must be thinking of another poster who MineralMan Oct 2015 #34
Yes you are exactly who you appear to be in your posts. Here and elsewhere. Autumn Oct 2015 #42
"Third Way" appears to be a DU phenomenon Dem2 Oct 2015 #32
So it appears to me, too. I'm still seeing diatribes on DU against the DLC, MineralMan Oct 2015 #36
The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians think Oct 2015 #45
There's got to be some shadow organization workinclasszero Oct 2015 #55
A minor group with 13 sitting Members of Congress as co-chairs? 6 of them Senators? Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #62
That's exactly what it is treestar Oct 2015 #57
"You know, I was thinking..." whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #35
Why the quotation marks? MineralMan Oct 2015 #38
Yep whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #39
Maybe this will help pinebox Oct 2015 #37
Good for them. Every candidate needs donations. MineralMan Oct 2015 #40
Here's the rub pinebox Oct 2015 #46
Do you think they're the only ones donating the maximum MineralMan Oct 2015 #53
There isn't anything wrong with giving the maximum donation, yes and Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #54
Don't bother... Segami Oct 2015 #41
I fell for it unfortunately. think Oct 2015 #47
Started with the Clintons and Blair madfloridian Oct 2015 #44
It's about a specific organization but also about a mindset. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #50
If this is meant to draw attention away from or obfuscate the relationship between the Clintons and djean111 Oct 2015 #51
For your edification aidbo Oct 2015 #52
You've never heard of Claire McCaskill? Joe Manchin? Did you click on 'Co-Chairs'? Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #58
Bwahahahahahaha. 99Forever Oct 2015 #59
You have never heard of Chris Coons or Tom Carper? Jeanne Shaheen? Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #61

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
3. Those people have nothing to do with the day-to-day operations.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

In any case, I don't recognize any of them, either. I haven't seen any opinions from them in publications regarding the upcoming election.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
60. You don't recogzine the name Thurgood Marshall Jr? Jeepers! Famous Dad, son in the prison biz...
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:14 PM
Oct 2015

Few people don't know the name.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
6. I would not call it naive
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:13 AM
Oct 2015

Imo MM has political motivations, as do many HRC supporters on this board that are in alignment with third way's politics.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. Third Way was by founded in 2005 by former staffers who worked in the Clinton administration
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:09 AM
Oct 2015
Third Way (think tank)

Third Way is a Washington, D.C.-based public policy think tank founded in 2005 by former staffers who worked in the Clinton administration.[1] The think tank develops policy ideas, conducts public opinion research and hosts issue briefings. The organization has four policy divisions: Economics, National Security, Clean Energy, and Social Policy & Politics. Third Way develops and advocates for policies that it says represent the "vital center".[2]

~Snip~

History

Third Way was founded in 2005 by Jonathan Cowan, Matt Bennett,[5] Jim Kessler,[6] and Nancy Hale[7] in the wake of the 2004 election as a policy, messaging and strategy "idea center" and think tank. The organization was dedicated to understanding the wants, needs and expectations of self-described Moderate left leaning Americans, who comprise 44% of the voting public.[citation needed].

https://goo.gl/XwRBsU



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Cowan

http://www.thirdway.org/about/leadership/matt-bennett

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
7. OK. I'm still not seeing any evidence that they have any
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:13 AM
Oct 2015

impact on anything. If they did, I'd have seen stuff they put out. I don't, so I simply discount their influence.

Again, I have never seen a Clinton supporter refer to or quote anyone from that organization. I only see people talking about it as a somehow evil, influential group. I'm not seeing that influence out there at all.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
24. After the DLC was exposed for the corporate shill organization it was I suppose not
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:32 AM
Oct 2015



~Snip~

The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.


~snip~

The DLC has become unpopular within many progressive and liberal political circles such as the organizations Center for American Progress, Democracy for America, and the blogs Daily Kos and MyDD.

Some critics claim the strategy of triangulation between the political left and right to gain broad appeal is fundamentally flawed. In the long run, so opponents say, this strategy has resulted in concession after concession to the opposition and promotion of a neoliberal economic agenda favorable to corporations and entrepreneurs, including those seeking to privatize public services, while alienating traditionally-allied voters and working-class people.

Other critics cite that the low turnout of organized labor in the 1994 election after Bill Clinton signed the North American Free Trade Agreement into law resulted in the Republican Party gaining a majority in the 1994 House of Representatives elections and 1994 Senate elections that would last for twelve years until 2006.

Author and Columnist David Sirota has strongly criticized the DLC, whom he claims have sold out to corporate interests. In 1980, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) founded the Democratic Business Council to compete with the Republican National Committee for donations from businesses and corporations. Sirota has also argued that the term "centrist" is a misnomer in that these politicians are out of touch with public opinion. Sirota's article "The Democrats' Da Vinci Code" argues that truly progressive politicians are more successful in so-called "red states" than the mainstream media have previously reported.[16]

Others contend that the DLC's distaste for what they refer to as "economic class warfare" has allowed the language of populism to be monopolized by the right-wing. Many argue that the Democrats' abandonment of populism to the right-wing, shifting the form of that populism from the economic realm to the "culture wars", has been critical for Republican dominance of Middle America. (See, for instance, Thomas Frank's What's the Matter with Kansas?.)

Still other critics believe the DLC has essentially become an influential corporate and right-wing implant in the Democratic party. Marshall Wittmann, a former senior fellow at the DLC, former legislative director for the Christian Coalition, and former communications director for Republican senator John McCain, and Will Marshall, a vocal supporter of the war in Iraq, are among those associated with the DLC who have right-wing credentials.

Finally, detractors of the DLC note that the DLC has received funding from the right-wing Bradley Foundation as well as from oil companies, military contractors, and various Fortune 500 companies. However, the DNC proper has also benefited from funding by corporations like these via the Democratic Business Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council#Criticism

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. Yeah, it's weird. Hillary haters are obsessed with this group. Most Hillary supporters, like me,
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015

couldn't care less about what anyone at Third Way says.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
16. Then you wonlt have any insights into the fundamental diffrences going in
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

Like it or not, they have ties to the Clintons. Maybe Hillary is truly moving away from them. Maybe not. Maybe she's distancing herself publicly for political purposes.

Some of her rhetoric and positions seem quite close.

If you think they're correct, that's fine. IF you hink Hillary should follow their "advice" okay. Agree with them.

But it;s not unimportant.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
25. Okay fine Dan. Just keep pounding away at an NRA donation to one of Sandrs opponents in the 90's
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

Forget the role of Wall St. and Big Corporations in government

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
56. Well, there you go.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:05 PM
Oct 2015

Edited to add:

"Third Way, backed by Wall Street titans, corporate money, and congressional allies, is publicly warning against divisive “soak-the-rich” politics voiced by populist Democrats."

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
20. You're right
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:29 AM
Oct 2015

They are just a bogeyman. So is the DLC which disbanded several years ago.

The right employs such bogeyman (like ACORN) to scare people. It's sad to see some on the left do the same thing.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
5. Bilge
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:12 AM
Oct 2015

You know better, but you choose to obfuscate. If they were uninfluential and unconected, their warning would not have been mentioned in the news media.

And did you ever hear of Mr Daley?

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
13. Seriously - You Are Politically Naive - Redux
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

The Third-Way Is The Remade DLC.

The DLC was chaired by none other that Bill Clinton Before he became president.

HRC has been a prominent member of the DLC as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
15. Sure they are....
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015
With Hillary Clinton’s memoir due out soon, a close aide will brief Democratic national security experts and communicators on the next round of political scrutiny over the Benghazi terror attack.

Philippe Reines, a longtime Clinton adviser and spokesman, will address the group organized by Third Way, a moderate think tank, at a meeting in Washington on Friday.


-Reines is expected to detail what the Republican attacks on Benghazi will be as a House Select Committee gets going and how to best to refute them, according to a source with knowledge of the matter.

"Some of us don't track these issues all the time," according to the source. "He [Reines] is somebody who can tell people how to understand this, why it is a big deal right now and what is the particular attack. … A lot of people, they just don't follow it day to day. He had to live it at the time."

When asked for comment, Reines referred CNN to Third Way.

The source at Third Way, however, cautioned against characterizing the event as a cabal of Clinton supporters and advisers. Instead, the source said it is a meeting of Democratic leaders on national security issues, some of who are close to Clinton.


- So Third Way organized a meeting of Democratic leaders to sit down regularly to talk about national security communication and "brainstorm about how to respond to various Republican attacks."


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/28/clinton-supporters-meeting-to-talk-benghazi-national-security/

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
18. Most of their policies agree completely with the progressive left.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

It is their economic policy that doesn't agree with progressives.

Partisan politics separates us all.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. Triangulation
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

Give the liberals their social issues, just let us keep running things, including fuking up the biggest social safety nets

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
26. +10000
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:36 AM
Oct 2015

Bingo!.......best explanation in one sentence.....

Dismantling the 'social safety nets', or as they say 'entitlements' is the Holy Grail Prize for them.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
28. Governing req uires compromise.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:44 AM
Oct 2015

I don't agree with their economic policies. I see no problem working with them when our interests coincide.

Everything is not economic policy.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
48. It's not a matter of working with them or not. It's what candidate's views do they represent
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
Oct 2015

It's about which candidates get elected who represent the Third Way views.

By all means vote for Hillary, if you think the social issues are more important than the fundamental economic policies they support -- and if you are comfortable with a candidate that shares their economic views.

Personally I prefer a candidate who is progressive on social and economic issues.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
49. We are electing a government, and it is about governing.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:51 PM
Oct 2015

I am going to vote for a lot of people between the primary and general election. They will range from progressive through liberal and back to the center.

The conflict between progressives and the third way is just something that divides us and make good governance more difficult.

The President is only our Representative in the executive branch. One litmus test is not going to fit al candidates.

over the past few years I've seen Partisan conflict between right and left, and partisan conflicts between different parts of the left. All the lead to is a government that doesn't work.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. Wall Street has a friend in Hillary and not Bernie, this is a fact. 3rd way or no 3rd way. lets
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:47 AM
Oct 2015

all admit this, work for our candidate, Bernie or HIllary, and then when all the shouting is over

support who is left standing

no pun, oh wait, pun intended


BAZINGA

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. You are not this stupid, nor this politically unaware.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:49 AM
Oct 2015

You should stop insulting us by pretending to be.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
31. I am exactly who I appear to be in my posts.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:06 PM
Oct 2015

Conclusions drawn about me are owned by those drawing those conclusions. I remain unconcerned about that, and will continue to post as I choose. Thanks for the reply.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
33. No, you run about 3 different personas depending on the point you want to make.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:10 PM
Oct 2015

And in this OP, you want us to believe someone who has spent decades working on GOTV operations and otherwise engaged in Democratic politics has no clue who Third Way is.

It's utterly insulting that you believe that is believable.

You used to be a respectable poster. I'm sorry you decided to abandon that persona.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
34. I think you must be thinking of another poster who
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:16 PM
Oct 2015

assumes multiple personas and posts very frequently. Maybe it's the screen name that starts with the same letter that is confusing you.

I have one persona. Yes, I work on GOTV and other election issues, but at the local level, primarily. I've never encountered anyone connected with the Third Way in any of that work. When it comes to presidential elections, I'm more of an observer than a participant. I have one vote, just like everyone else. In my precinct canvassing I promote whoever is the Democratic candidate for President. My focus, however, is on legislative offices as I talk to voters. That's what really affects them.

Third Way is completely off my radar, and only comes up in posts on DU complaining about that organization. I've yet to encounter any influence it might have on anyone. It's just another advocacy group among many - probably the least influential one on voters that I know of.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
42. Yes you are exactly who you appear to be in your posts. Here and elsewhere.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:27 PM
Oct 2015

And from those posts we can draw a logical conclusion.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
32. "Third Way" appears to be a DU phenomenon
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

I can't recall seeing or hearing this organization mentioned elsewhere on the web, on the radio or on TV.

It appears to be a generic tag used to denigrate certain Democrats that post on DU.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
36. So it appears to me, too. I'm still seeing diatribes on DU against the DLC,
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
Oct 2015

which closed down years ago.

Third Way appears to be a minor think tank group, really. It's funny that it gets so much attention here from opponents to certain candidates. Any port in a storm, I guess.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
45. The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:49 PM
Oct 2015

The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.

Democratic Leadership Council

The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was a non-profit 501(c)(4) corporation[1] founded in 1985 that, upon its formation, argued the United States Democratic Party should shift away from the leftward turn it took in the late 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s. The DLC hailed President Bill Clinton as proof of the viability of Third Way politicians and as a DLC success story.

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves New Democrats. This term is also used by other groups who have similar views on where the party should go in the future, like NDN[2] and Third Way.[3]

On February 7, 2011, Politico reported that the DLC would dissolve, and would do so as early as the following week.[4] On July 5 of that year, DLC founder Al From announced in a statement on the organization's website that the historical records of the DLC have been purchased by the Clinton Foundation.[5] The DLC's last chairman was former Representative Harold Ford of Tennessee, and its vice chair was Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO was Bruce Reed.

~Snip~

Chairs
Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri (1985–1986)
Gov. Chuck Robb of Virginia (1986–1988)
Sen. Sam Nunn of Georgia (1988–1990)
Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas (1990–1991)
Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana (1991–1993)
Rep. Dave McCurdy of Oklahoma (1993–1995)
Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut (1995–2001)
Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana (2001–2005)
Gov. Tom Vilsack of Iowa (2005–2007)
Fmr. Rep. Harold Ford of Tennessee (2007–2011)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
55. There's got to be some shadow organization
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:03 PM
Oct 2015

Or boogie man you know?

Can't be that the American people respect and admire Hillary.

This shadow group is behind the scenes manipulating our minds.....or something

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
62. A minor group with 13 sitting Members of Congress as co-chairs? 6 of them Senators?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:27 PM
Oct 2015

That's some major face for a minor group of any sort. Why all that big prestige on loan to a group that's just a DU phenomenon? Why are so many Senators co-chairs of a figment of DU's collective imagination?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. That's exactly what it is
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:07 PM
Oct 2015

And it probably has taken on meaning that has nothing to do with the actual organization.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
38. Why the quotation marks?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:19 PM
Oct 2015

I didn't say that. Maybe you're quoting yourself, but I have no idea.

Still, thanks for kicking my thread.

MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
40. Good for them. Every candidate needs donations.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:22 PM
Oct 2015

I know half a dozen people who have donated the maximum to her campaign, just like those folks. You would not recognize their names.

I'd donate that amount, too, but I simply don't have it. See, I'm a Hillary supporter. Lots of people are, and the list of $2700 donors will be very, very long, indeed. Democrats who can do so donate to the candidate of their choice. No news there.

If I could donate that amount, and did, I'd get to say hello to the candidate and shake her hand. I doubt she'd pay any more attention to me than she does now, however. It's just not that much money.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
46. Here's the rub
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

People donate to who they support, as you said, correct?
Don't you find it a bit ironic that the leaders of Third Way are donating to Hillary and not Bernie or O'Malley? Why would that be do you think? Because they side with her. Right? Right. Just as you do (which I personally don't understand)

HuffPo even has a section titled "Third Way Democrats" which has news stories associated with such politicians. One shuch politician is Hillary. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/third-way-democrats/

Third Way itself writes about Hillary a great deal http://perspectives.thirdway.org/?tag=hillary-clinton

Check this http://perspectives.thirdway.org/?p=2919

And here you go http://bluemassgroup.com/2013/12/hillary-clinton-is-a-third-way-adherent/



MineralMan

(146,324 posts)
53. Do you think they're the only ones donating the maximum
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:41 PM
Oct 2015

to Hillary's campaign. Yes, they support her, but so do many, many more people, some of whom can donate $2700. She also has many, many supporters who cant donate a penny. She's over 50% in voter support now, according to the polls.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. There isn't anything wrong with giving the maximum donation, yes and
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:48 PM
Oct 2015

They probably support the candidate they contribute to.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
44. Started with the Clintons and Blair
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:36 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251716682

They are not about to let Bernie win if they can stop it. Money power, they have it. Just a few men and women telling us what to do.
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
50. It's about a specific organization but also about a mindset.
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:20 PM
Oct 2015

I could refer to "the KKK wing of the Republican Party" without being able to name a specific Kleagle who held a party office. It would mean that some Republicans have a marked degree of affinity for the views of the Klan.

That kind of use is appropriate here. Traditional Democrats saw themselves as being opposed to Republicans -- as pushing through things like Medicare over Republican opposition. Third Way obviously takes its name from the contrary idea that, instead of pursuing progressive goals in opposition to conservatives, Democrats should look for some other position that's neither progressive nor conservative. It applies to any Democrat who espouses "triangulation" and who seeks to "bring people from right, left, red, blue, and get them into a nice warm purple space...." -- which is Hillary Clinton's view.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
51. If this is meant to draw attention away from or obfuscate the relationship between the Clintons and
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:33 PM
Oct 2015

the Third Way - giant giant fail. Seriously. Giant fail. Does not matter in the least if you, personally, do not see the relationship.

And the Third Way advises the DINOs already in Congress - the New Democrat Coalition. These people will happily trade away the safety net and jobs whilst waving social issues around to distract. I will never cast a vote for any of them.
These are the people, by the way, who used the Wall Street Journal to whine that Elizabeth Warren has gotten "out of hand".

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
52. For your edification
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:35 PM
Oct 2015
http://politicaldictionary.com/words/triangulation/
The act of a political candidate presenting his or her views as being above and between the left and right sides of the political spectrum. It’s sometimes called the “third way.”
The term was first used by political consultant Dick Morris while working on the re-election campaign of President Clinton in 1996. Morris urged Clinton to adopt a set of policies that were different from the traditional policies of the Democratic Party in order to co-opt the opposition.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
58. You've never heard of Claire McCaskill? Joe Manchin? Did you click on 'Co-Chairs'?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:10 PM
Oct 2015

Two sections of Co-Chairs, a Board, a 'Team' and the Leadership you listed are all under that same heading. Jane Harman? Evan Bayh? You don't know these people? Seriously? I thought you wrote web content, you should be able to work their site, although I admit it is byzantine and very, very Aryan in nature...

http://www.thirdway.org/about#co-chairs

http://www.thirdway.org/about#emeritus-co-chairs

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
61. You have never heard of Chris Coons or Tom Carper? Jeanne Shaheen?
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 06:16 PM
Oct 2015

Heidi Heitcamp? James Clyburn? How can that be?

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