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Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:46 AM Nov 2015

Clinton backs decision to send US commandos into Syria

http://bigstory.ap.org/d61d39c06c1f46f8b3677e2b4a30369b&utm_source=android_app&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share

It's not a surprise. It is a sign of what we can expect from Hillary if she were POTUS.

More war, more war, more war.

She has learned nothing from the last 14 years of US war.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton supports the decision by President Barack Obama to deploy a small number of special operations forces to northern Syria to work with local ground forces in the fight against Islamic State militants.

Campaign spokesman Nick Merrill said in a statement that Clinton "sees merit in the targeted use of special operations personnel." He added that Clinton also strongly "supports ongoing diplomatic efforts to end the conflict."

But, he said, she opposes the U.S. entering a larger ground war in the Middle East to combat the rise of Islamic militants.

As secretary of State, Clinton advocated for a more aggressive U.S. role in the Syrian conflict. Earlier this month, she called for a no-fly zone over the area, a move the administration opposes.

Clinton's main challenger, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, said through a spokesman that he has "concern about the United States being drawn into the quagmire of the Syrian civil war which could lead to perpetual warfare in that region." Sanders reiterated in the statement that he believes the "crisis in Syria will be solved diplomatically, not militarily."
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Clinton backs decision to send US commandos into Syria (Original Post) Bonobo Nov 2015 OP
Of course she does! PERPETUAL WAR! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #1
Does that mean Barack Obama shouldn't be Commander In Chief since he ordered it DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #3
If he stated that in 2008, that he would escalate , as a candidate bahrbearian Nov 2015 #9
It means a lot of us would not have voted for him in the Dem primary, had we known ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #10
Stupid fucking question. n/t in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #17
Empathy DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #19
You once accused me of being passive-aggressive. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #25
I suggest you look inward to find even more empathy if that is possible. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #28
We have sort of a weird thing going on. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #31
No. I meant you were suggesting I tap further into my infinite well of empathy. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #32
My mistake. Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #33
It's 50 military advisers. And you forgot this part... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #2
It always starts somewhere. Always. Bonobo Nov 2015 #6
of course she does... wink wink nod nod LOL bowens43 Nov 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #8
You should read about the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act - "Saddam has WMD" cprise Nov 2015 #13
Can you ever disagree with Clinton on anything? Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #11
These folks have been sure Obama was about to send 150k troops back into JoePhilly Nov 2015 #29
Lol Alittleliberal Nov 2015 #35
Of course she does. Would not expect anything different from "We came, we saw, he died" .... peacebird Nov 2015 #4
of course she does...she is the typical military industrial complex loving fat cat politician....BAU bowens43 Nov 2015 #5
Erect bogeyman, wave flag, sound tough, send in the troops and cheerlead. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #12
Warmongers gotta monger. 99Forever Nov 2015 #14
You should read this about her Iran policy cprise Nov 2015 #15
I am very afraid Hllary would get us into a war. hedgehog Nov 2015 #16
Unfortunately, I can see one of our troops killed or captured (w/ accompanying beheading video) AzDar Nov 2015 #18
Yep, as soon as one is killed it will be .. bahrbearian Nov 2015 #20
Gee, what a surprise n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #21
Advisers. The movie. Yeah, I fucking saw that one. It sucked. Autumn Nov 2015 #22
She said during the debate, she did not azmom Nov 2015 #23
Hillary never met a war she didn't like. Or an MIC donation she wouldn't take. Scuba Nov 2015 #24
She is a neocon, pure and simple. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #26
Chicken Hawks, the next generation. JonathanRackham Nov 2015 #27
Cnn headline; Clinton 'sees merit' in Obama's decision to send troops to Syria riversedge Nov 2015 #30
Bernie doesn't have much to add here BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #34

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
1. Of course she does! PERPETUAL WAR!
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:49 AM
Nov 2015

War, war, war! Kill, kill, kill!

She is dangerous. She should NEVER be President.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Does that mean Barack Obama shouldn't be Commander In Chief since he ordered it
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:53 AM
Nov 2015

Does that mean Barack Obama shouldn't be Commander In Chief since he ordered it and if that is your opinion would you support his impeachment and ultimate removal from office?

Thank you in advance.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
9. If he stated that in 2008, that he would escalate , as a candidate
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

I doubt he would be President. As with Hilliary supporting it now, She shouldn't be President.

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
10. It means a lot of us would not have voted for him in the Dem primary, had we known ...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:17 AM
Nov 2015

... providing there was a candidate who was clearly a better option.

Fortunately, in the 2016 primary we do have a candidate who is clearly a much better choice in terms of war & peace and reigning in the perpetual war of the military industrial complex.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Empathy
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:49 PM
Nov 2015
Stupid fucking question.


If I wasn't an empathetic person I would respond in kind to your deeply personal and vicious attack but being the empathetic person that I am I can see you are still working your way through Elisabeth Kubler Ross' Five Stages Of Grief and are still in the Anger Stage.

As an empathetic person I will be there for you every step pf the way, all the way to the final stage which is Acceptance.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
31. We have sort of a weird thing going on.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

I have real affection and admiration for you and I believe vice versa. And yes, maybe I should dig a little deeper for empathy. I stand by my post, but wishing you well is where I want to leave it.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
33. My mistake.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:10 AM
Nov 2015

And I did get a chuckle out of the "infinite well" part. Your droll turn of phrase sometimes brightens my day.

Peace to you, brother.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. It's 50 military advisers. And you forgot this part...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:53 AM
Nov 2015

She opposes the U.S. entering a larger ground war in the Middle East to combat the rise of Islamic militants.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
7. of course she does... wink wink nod nod LOL
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

she cant wait to start playing with her soldiers.......

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

cprise

(8,445 posts)
13. You should read about the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act - "Saddam has WMD"
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:04 AM
Nov 2015

Bill swallowed the lie during his Presidency. Hillary just accepted the lies for 5 years and never said a peep about the 1998 Act.

It wasn't just IWR, and she can't pretend she was bum-rushed into it with lies.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
11. Can you ever disagree with Clinton on anything?
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:37 AM
Nov 2015

And before you ask there are many things I disagree with Sanders on. Check my recent $15 minimum wage thread.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
29. These folks have been sure Obama was about to send 150k troops back into
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:52 AM
Nov 2015

Iraq since the day he took office.

They were sure he'd never take them out ... and not that he has ... they are SURE he's going to send them all back.

When he doesn't do as they've been predicting, they'll scream that Hillary will send 150k back in.



Alittleliberal

(528 posts)
35. Lol
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:29 PM
Nov 2015

50 targets in the middle of a fight with no friends. A perfect justification for all out invasion if they attacked by anyone from any direction. Syria is a shit show we have no place in.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
5. of course she does...she is the typical military industrial complex loving fat cat politician....BAU
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:55 AM
Nov 2015
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. Erect bogeyman, wave flag, sound tough, send in the troops and cheerlead.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 10:42 AM
Nov 2015

All for the good of...of...what was the reason this time?

cprise

(8,445 posts)
15. You should read this about her Iran policy
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:15 AM
Nov 2015
Imagine GW Bush's voice saying these quotes --

“Iran, like ISIS, benefits from chaos and strife.”

Clinton proclaimed that she “too [is] deeply concerned about Iranian aggression and the need to confront it. It’s a ruthless, brutal regime that has the blood of Americans, many others and including its own people on its hands.” Even worse, she said, “Its political rallies resound with cries of ‘Death to America.’ Its leaders talk about wiping Israel off the face of the map, most recently just yesterday, and foment terror against it. There is absolutely no reason to trust Iran.” She repeated that claim several times for emphasis: “They vow to destroy Israel. And that’s worth saying again. They vow to destroy Israel.”

https://theintercept.com/2015/09/09/hillary-clinton-goes-militaristic-hawkish-think-tank-gives-militaristic-hawkish-speech


Its the old neoconservative lies and psychosis.
 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
18. Unfortunately, I can see one of our troops killed or captured (w/ accompanying beheading video)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

et voilà ... We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
20. Yep, as soon as one is killed it will be ..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:00 PM
Nov 2015

"we can't turn our backs on a fallen comrade, send in more troops" Viet Nam redux

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
30. Cnn headline; Clinton 'sees merit' in Obama's decision to send troops to Syria
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015



Not much difference at all with Sander's statements. This headline is in line with what Clinton actually said than the OP.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/30/politics/hillary-clinton-obama-syria/index.html


Clinton 'sees merit' in Obama's decision to send troops to Syria

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By Dan Merica, CNN

Updated 9:18 PM ET, Fri October 30, 2015


Charleston, South Carolina (CNN)Hillary Clinton on Friday cautiously supported President Barack Obama's decision to authorize the use of special forces in Syria.

Clinton "sees merit in the targeted use of special operations personnel to support our partners in the fight against ISIS, including in Syria," according to a statement released by her campaign spokesman, Nick Merrill.

"Of course she opposes the U.S. getting into a ground war in the Middle East," Merrill said. "And she strongly supports ongoing diplomatic efforts to end the conflict, address the suffering, and bring all of Syria's communities together to confront ISIS."

BeyondGeography

(39,376 posts)
34. Bernie doesn't have much to add here
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:40 AM
Nov 2015

Everyone wants a diplomatic solution, the question is how best to get there. Whatever your feelings on the matter, Obama obviously saw sending troops as something he needed to do in tandem with bringing Iran to the table. It's seen by most observers as symbolic, not as the first step in the run-up to a ground war in the ME.

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