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Bernie Sanders Gets Shit Done (Original Post) kenn3d Nov 2015 OP
Could you please provide a list of accomplishments. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #1
No because all you have to do is watch the damn video Armstead Nov 2015 #9
I don't watch propaganda videos MohRokTah Nov 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #14
The Sanders has accomplished exactly nothing. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #28
What do you bring to these discussions? Exactly nothing? Maybe you could tell me what you see Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #40
Go away. 840high Nov 2015 #72
Nah, eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #77
+1 senz Nov 2015 #87
The list is provided in the video. nt LWolf Nov 2015 #30
Propaganda? Which organization put out this video, how is it deceptive, and what is their agenda? Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #38
Do you have Google or Bing? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #43
So whatever MohRokTah is ignorant of doesn't exist? Matariki Nov 2015 #49
That poster claims that conservative Democrats are a myth. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #50
Ah. Gaslighting. Matariki Nov 2015 #51
Bingo. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #52
Also argues that "Sanders is a scumbag," with the reason being that "Sanders is a scumbag" Scootaloo Nov 2015 #55
LOL. WTF? polly7 Nov 2015 #74
Could you please provide a list of what Hillary has accomplished? She was my Senator just so you sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #78
Really - You Don't Watch News - You Don't Watch HRC Videos - One Suggests One Is Disingenuous cantbeserious Nov 2015 #101
partial list as the video covers 3 main points questionseverything Nov 2015 #57
Here are some, but not from the video jfern Nov 2015 #83
Thank you! senz Nov 2015 #90
Impressive video! Jonathan Mann did a great job of putting together a well produced factual account think Nov 2015 #2
Excellent! demwing Nov 2015 #3
That was good TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #4
Thinking that Republicans are going to VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #6
Did you watch the video? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #10
Watched..didn't watch..trifling details demwing Nov 2015 #31
"Because truthiness is sciency." beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #48
They ain't the voters... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #60
Actually he has one of the lowest ratings for sponsoring bipartisan legislation Persondem Nov 2015 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #5
Brilliant video. Very useful information presented very effectively. DamnYankeeInHouston Nov 2015 #7
Perhaps that might be true on a Vermont based scale but.. DCBob Nov 2015 #8
Did you watch the video or article? And don't discount his achievements in Burlington Armstead Nov 2015 #11
True but I dont think he has adequately shown that he is ready for the Office of President.. DCBob Nov 2015 #12
well..got to hand it to you.. DianeK Nov 2015 #15
If it takes watching campaign videos to prove someone is ready to run for President.. DCBob Nov 2015 #19
it's called DianeK Nov 2015 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #16
It doesn't take a genius to see Bernie is not qualified or ready to be President of this country. DCBob Nov 2015 #20
No... No it doesn't, Bob... I'll tell you what it takes to have attitude like that... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #26
Right Bobby. 99Forever Nov 2015 #27
When yoou get time I suggest you watch it Armstead Nov 2015 #25
You say that Hillary is "no doubt ready," although many of us have doubts RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #33
The video is 5 minutes long. You've spent more time arguing than that nt riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #66
Voting against the Iraq war is an excellent qualification n/t eridani Nov 2015 #71
Obviously not. Some have no interest in facts. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #17
The video is about some of his SENATE accomplishments. senz Nov 2015 #89
I remember voting for a guy whose accomplishments were on an "Arkansas based scale" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #99
Yes he does! zappaman Nov 2015 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #29
Some people have a love/hate relationship with the facts demwing Nov 2015 #32
He's another fan of truthiness! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #47
This was concisely excellent, kenn3d... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #23
If you care about actions and not just words, O'Malley is the candidate for you. askew Nov 2015 #24
O'Malley is a solid candidate demwing Nov 2015 #34
It's too hard for the media to read O'Malley's long resume of accomplishments and policy statements. Koinos Nov 2015 #37
The media has too much power to limit our candidate choices by only covering some of the askew Nov 2015 #70
I wonder why he is not getting traction. JimDandy Nov 2015 #35
O'Malley doesn't get as much free TV time as other candidates. Koinos Nov 2015 #39
I glad he has ground coverage in those areas at least then. JimDandy Nov 2015 #41
It's the lack of debates earlier in the cycle. He can't get the free media he needs to askew Nov 2015 #69
Now THAT was an impressive video! Thanks for posting it! K&R! in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #36
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #42
kick DianeK Nov 2015 #44
That was very good. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #45
let's keep this kicked! DianeK Nov 2015 #46
The reality is that for creating bipartisan legislation, Sanders does NOT get shit done. Persondem Nov 2015 #54
Bullshit. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #58
You win the prize for meaningless wordiness ... evidently you didn't look at post #53 Persondem Nov 2015 #64
"It just means he got a lot of amendments passed." beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #65
Again, you missed my point ... he does NOT get shit done with the other party. Persondem Nov 2015 #67
Doesn't read article, doubles down on talking point anyway. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #68
# of amendments means nothing without details. Persondem Nov 2015 #73
Oh, I just looked up exactly what Bernie got done from '94 - '06 Persondem Nov 2015 #75
90 amendments = NOT GOOD ENUFF BERNIE? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #76
Still playing obtuse eh? Over half of them went nowhere!!! Persondem Nov 2015 #79
Nowhere! Nowhere I say! I am shocked! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #80
Obtuse. A mirror ......... polly7 Nov 2015 #81
Do they really think they're convincing anyone? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #84
Nothing he has ever accomplished will be good enough. polly7 Nov 2015 #85
Action, not platitudes and poetry, or morphing or forgetting who pays the bills, or who he owes . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2015 #56
single payer in Vermont? redstateblues Nov 2015 #59
Another person who doesn't understand how the government works. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #61
Here's an example of what a US Senator can do to pass legislation at a state level - if s/he really seaglass Nov 2015 #92
That's nice, now explain to me how Bernie could have passed single payer in VT. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #93
This is what you said to redstateblues and what I was showing you is not true: seaglass Nov 2015 #94
So iow as a US Senator he isn't capable of passing legislation at the state level. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #95
IOW a US Senator can use his/her influence to get legislation passed at the state level. n/t seaglass Nov 2015 #96
And how would his influence have made a difference in this case? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #97
bmus I have no idea and don't really care. That was not my point. I guess I could say it again. seaglass Nov 2015 #98
That poster blamed Bernie for not getting legislature passed at the state level. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #100
Thanks seaglass. In my state the Senators are hugely influential. redstateblues Nov 2015 #103
LOL! senz Nov 2015 #91
I went through the video, the proof of getting sh*t accomplished was not earth shattering. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #62
I "Liked" it on youtube, thanks for posting this! (nt) Babel_17 Nov 2015 #63
Here are some accomplishments jfern Nov 2015 #82
That is great Kalidurga Nov 2015 #86
K&R -- great video, kenn3d, and it's true: Bernie knows how to get things done in D.C. senz Nov 2015 #88
Yes, he does. nt LWolf Nov 2015 #102
kick DianeK Nov 2015 #104

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #13)

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #21)

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
40. What do you bring to these discussions? Exactly nothing? Maybe you could tell me what you see
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:30 PM
Nov 2015

as your contribution to the political discourse, because I'm having a real hard time seeing anything other than hamfisted trolling.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
49. So whatever MohRokTah is ignorant of doesn't exist?
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:40 PM
Nov 2015

Is that what you're saying? Because that's the most solipsistic thing I've read in a long time.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
50. That poster claims that conservative Democrats are a myth.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

Even after I provided links to prove otherwise.

It's best to walk away, some people have their own version of reality.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
78. Could you please provide a list of what Hillary has accomplished? She was my Senator just so you
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:11 AM
Nov 2015

know, so I know the answer.

Sanders has an incredible record in terms of getting shit down in Congress btw.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
57. partial list as the video covers 3 main points
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:05 PM
Nov 2015

money for community healthcare centers

got the federal reserve audited

got more money for veterans for the va and got the va to pay for private care if wait times were too long

jfern

(5,204 posts)
83. Here are some, but not from the video
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:59 AM
Nov 2015

2014 VA overhaul
10 million more people covered by community health centers in ObamaCare
Rated a top 20 mayor nationwide
Got more amendments passed during the Republican controlled House 1995-2006 than any other Representative
Amended Patriot Act to require a warrant for library and bookstore records
Got Audit the Fed passed.

And more here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251605502
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128063921

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
90. Thank you!
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:40 AM
Nov 2015

It's clear that you put time and effort into compiling these lists. Bernie doesn't brag enough, and it's good to have itemized proof to combat the lies.

Thanks again, jfern!

 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. Impressive video! Jonathan Mann did a great job of putting together a well produced factual account
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:19 AM
Nov 2015

of how Bernie Sanders has worked across the isle to make things happen.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,205 posts)
4. That was good
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:31 AM
Nov 2015

Bernie is willing to work with the Republicans, but more importantly, they are willing to work with him. I don't understand why the GOP hates Hillary SO MUCH, but they do. Maybe it's because she's a woman, or maybe it's because she's Bill's wife and they really hate him, but they HATE her. I think if she got elected, we would see the same gridlock we've seen with Obama and we simply can't afford that.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
60. They ain't the voters...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

sorry is not going to happen....

Its not even the Republicans yet (like they ever will have to) hammering it home that he IS a Socialist!

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
53. Actually he has one of the lowest ratings for sponsoring bipartisan legislation
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:47 PM
Nov 2015
Sanders tends to gather cosponsors only on one side of the aisle. 9% of Sanders’s 69 bills and resolutions had both a Democratic cosponsor and a Republican cosponsor in the 113th Congress.

compared to...

Senate Cmte. Chairs/RkMembs
2nd lowest out of 35 8

Serving 10+ Years
3rd lowest out of 49 8

All Senators
6th lowest out of 90 5

Only Members of Congress who sponsored more than 10 bills and resolutions are included in this statistic.


Link here.

So when it comes to working across the aisle, no, Sanders does NOT get shit done.

Response to kenn3d (Original post)

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
7. Brilliant video. Very useful information presented very effectively.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:56 AM
Nov 2015

The people's media is kick ass this year.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. Perhaps that might be true on a Vermont based scale but..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:58 AM
Nov 2015

what experience or qualifications or accomplishments does he have nationwide or worldwide?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
11. Did you watch the video or article? And don't discount his achievements in Burlington
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015

A person's character and abilities are basically a template regardless of the scale.

As Mayor, he walked into a situaiton where a lot of people were against him as a radical ideologue and non-republican. He proved them wrong.

He pursued a pragmatic progressive agenda, that was also smart enough in practical terms that he actually won over a lot of grudging admiration from Republicans. Among other things, he made the local government work more efficiently in boring ways like the structure of public works departments, etc.



DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. True but I dont think he has adequately shown that he is ready for the Office of President..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:17 PM
Nov 2015

and all the national and global issues and responsibilities that go along with that. Hillary on the other hand is no doubt ready.. probably the most qualified candidate ever to run for President.

BTW, I did not watch the vid... don't really have time at the moment. Whatever he has done beyond the borders of Vermont certainly hasn't reached many people which suggests that he has not done much.

 

DianeK

(975 posts)
15. well..got to hand it to you..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

at least you are able to admit that you make important decisions without informing yourself..not many would admit such a thing...but if you ever do find yourself with 6 minutes to spare..it is worth a watch

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
19. If it takes watching campaign videos to prove someone is ready to run for President..
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:29 PM
Nov 2015

then I think that candidate is clearly not ready.

Response to DCBob (Reply #12)

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. It doesn't take a genius to see Bernie is not qualified or ready to be President of this country.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:30 PM
Nov 2015

It obvious to most.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
26. No... No it doesn't, Bob... I'll tell you what it takes to have attitude like that...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

... It takes an insular point of reference from someone who finds a "great view" out of their tiny little spaceship window from inside Washington, D.C.

The weather is here, wish you were wonderful

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
27. Right Bobby.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:41 PM
Nov 2015

But it does take a genius to have a completely uninformed opinion.

Yessir, you are certainly one of those.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
25. When yoou get time I suggest you watch it
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015

As or Hillary's qualifications.....Well, let's just say I haven't seen the evidence that she's so qualified either. She's certainly an amazingly accomplished person, but not necessarily in the ways that would qualify one to be an effective president, and at times the opposite.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
33. You say that Hillary is "no doubt ready," although many of us have doubts
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:02 PM
Nov 2015

Perhaps you could tell us who are in doubt of her leadership qualifications, what your reasons are. Please note that just because she was Secretary of State, a US Senator, and First Lady, does not mean that she has the qualifications. Obama did not have these "qualifications," and he did very well in the election.
Thanks in advance.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
89. The video is about some of his SENATE accomplishments.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:36 AM
Nov 2015

Bernie Sanders has served in the U.S. legislative branch since 1991.

So you can drop the "Vermont based scale" nonsense.

It's as if you know nothing whatsoever about Sen. Sanders.

Response to zappaman (Reply #18)

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
32. Some people have a love/hate relationship with the facts
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:59 PM
Nov 2015

Don't invest in their ritual, because truth isn't their goal, obfuscation is.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
23. This was concisely excellent, kenn3d...
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:35 PM
Nov 2015

Welcome to DU's open minds... We follow up and we do not forget why.

askew

(1,464 posts)
24. If you care about actions and not just words, O'Malley is the candidate for you.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 12:38 PM
Nov 2015

No other candidate running has done even 1/4 of the things O'Malley has. His list of progressive accomplishments is unmatched.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
37. It's too hard for the media to read O'Malley's long resume of accomplishments and policy statements.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:16 PM
Nov 2015

They just want a boxing match between two candidates.

It is all about entertainment, not education. Of course, without an informed electorate, democracy is impossible.

askew

(1,464 posts)
70. The media has too much power to limit our candidate choices by only covering some of the
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:42 PM
Nov 2015

candidates. It's completely frustrating.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
35. I wonder why he is not getting traction.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:03 PM
Nov 2015

Seriously. I'm clearly for Bernie, but it would be great to get another Dem really out there in the public mileu that doesn't turn so many people off like Clinton does.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
39. O'Malley doesn't get as much free TV time as other candidates.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015

His campaign can't afford national campaign TV ads, and the media regard this as a two-person contest. So his name recognition is suppressed.

His campaign is working tirelessly in Iowa and New Hampshire, however.

askew

(1,464 posts)
69. It's the lack of debates earlier in the cycle. He can't get the free media he needs to
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:41 PM
Nov 2015

boost his low name recognition. Sanders and Hillary both had higher name recognition and a national following. He is going to have to grind out this nomination in Iowa and hope he does better than expected to keep him in the race.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
54. The reality is that for creating bipartisan legislation, Sanders does NOT get shit done.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 06:51 PM
Nov 2015

See post #53.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
58. Bullshit.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:07 PM
Nov 2015
Bernie sponsored 3 and co-sponsored 203 bills - all of which were signed into law:

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B"bill-status"%3A"law"%7D


Bernie Sanders’ record of pushing through major reforms will surprise you

I'm a progressive, but I’m a progressive who likes to get things done,” Hillary Clinton said at the first Democratic debate, in response to a question from moderator Anderson Cooper about whether she defines herself as a moderate or a progressive.

The implication was that progressive Bernie Sanders is too far to the left to accomplish anything—all of his ideas are pie-in-the-sky. You have to be able to find the bipartisan, “warm, purple space” as Clinton said earlier this year, to get anything done. Slate’s Jamelle Bouie was super-impressed by this rationale, saying Clinton has “skilled use of bureaucratic power.”

The problem with this narrative is that it is completely false. Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career, he’s actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.

The Amendment King

Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members.

...

As if things didn’t look bad enough, in 1994 the Republicans swept into power in the House of Representatives, dashing the hopes of many that Congress could do anything progressive whatsoever. But Sanders was not content with tilting at windmills. He didn’t want to just take a stand, he wanted to pass legislation that improved the United States of America. He found his vehicle in legislative amendments.

Amendments in the House of Representatives are often seen as secondary vehicles to legislation that individual members sponsor, but they are an important way to move resources and build bipartisan coalitions to change the direction of the law. Despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives between 1994 and 2006, the member who passed the most amendments during that time was not a right-winger like Bob Barr or John Boehner. The amendment king was, instead, Bernie Sanders.

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/bernie-sanders-record-of-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you/



Nice try, you get a cookie for truthiness!

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
64. You win the prize for meaningless wordiness ... evidently you didn't look at post #53
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:19 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders is at the bottom of the rankings for sponsoring bipartisan legislation which you actually confirm with "...Bernie sponsored 3..."

Yeah, 3 is pretty minimal.

Co-sponsorships only means "support"; it doesn't take any work, or compromise to CO-sponsor a bill.

Without specifics, "Amendment King" means nothing as far as bipartisanship goes. It just means he got a lot of amendments passed.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
65. "It just means he got a lot of amendments passed."
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:23 PM
Nov 2015

So he does get shit done, iow.

Thanks for proving my point!


Persondem

(1,936 posts)
67. Again, you missed my point ... he does NOT get shit done with the other party.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

Amendments in and of themselves don't have anything to do with working across the aisle.

When it comes to Sanders working with the GOP, the facts are not on your side. Just leave it alone.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
68. Doesn't read article, doubles down on talking point anyway.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:38 PM
Nov 2015
Amendments in and of themselves don't have anything to do with working across the aisle.



Amendments in the House of Representatives are often seen as secondary vehicles to legislation that individual members sponsor, but they are an important way to move resources and build bipartisan coalitions to change the direction of the law. Despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives between 1994 and 2006, the member who passed the most amendments during that time was not a right-winger like Bob Barr or John Boehner. The amendment king was, instead, Bernie Sanders.


Love your dedication to getting the truthiness out there, willful ignorance can't be easy.




Persondem

(1,936 posts)
73. # of amendments means nothing without details.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:43 PM
Nov 2015

No matter how many times you say it ....

# of amendments does NOT equal bipartisanship.

Obtuse much?

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
75. Oh, I just looked up exactly what Bernie got done from '94 - '06
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:02 AM
Nov 2015

He was involved with about 90 amendments ... the staggering average of a whole 7 per year and over half of them were voted down or otherwise didn't go anywhere.

So that leaves him with about 3-4 successful amendments per year. I guess you, like the article writers, figured no one would ever dig enough to find out the TRUTH.

Link here.

Facts Bern don't they?

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
79. Still playing obtuse eh? Over half of them went nowhere!!!
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:27 AM
Nov 2015

3-4 successful amendments a year is not "getting shit done" (That was 90 amendments in 13 years ... or did you miss that bit?)

Please knock off the foolish internet lingo ... it doesn't score you any points and just makes you look more ..... obtuse.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
80. Nowhere! Nowhere I say! I am shocked!
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:34 AM
Nov 2015

Keep fragging the progressive Senator from Vermont, your dedication to swift boating his record is impressive I must say.

It's almost like going to freerepublic.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
84. Do they really think they're convincing anyone?
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:04 AM
Nov 2015

First it was "Bernie never gets anything done!"

That was proven wrong.

Then it was "he can't work with Democrats!"

We proved that was wrong.

Then "he can't work with Republicans!"

And again they were wrong.

Now it's "so what if he gets things done with Democrats and Republicans, it's still not good enough!!!"




polly7

(20,582 posts)
85. Nothing he has ever accomplished will be good enough.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:27 AM
Nov 2015

Eventually all they're going to be left with is the stuff they're too afraid to mention from over there to bring over.





beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
61. Another person who doesn't understand how the government works.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:14 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe you can explain how a US Senator is supposed to pass legislation at the state level.

Don't you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?



seaglass

(8,173 posts)
92. Here's an example of what a US Senator can do to pass legislation at a state level - if s/he really
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:20 AM
Nov 2015

cares and has some influence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/25/us/politics/ted-kennedy-helped-shape-mitt-romneys-career-and-still-haunts-it.html?_r=0

Years earlier, the senator had negotiated a deal with the federal government that waived certain rules, giving Massachusetts flexibility in administering its Medicaid program and extra money for hospitals that cared for the poor. But the waiver was set to expire, and President George W. Bush’s administration wanted to cut off the money, depriving the state of $385 million a year.

As a Republican governor, Mr. Romney could have made his case by himself to the Republican administration in Washington. But Mr. Kennedy had pull in Washington and was close to Tommy G. Thompson, the health and human services secretary under Mr. Bush. The senator’s involvement gave Mr. Romney “political cover,” said John McDonough, a professor of public health at Harvard who ran a health care advocacy group at the time

...

But with Democrats in control of the state legislature, Mr. Romney had little hope of passing a bill on his own. Mr. Kennedy worked lawmakers behind the scenes, writing notes, cajoling, making telephone calls and stepping in when negotiations between House and Senate Democrats broke down.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
93. That's nice, now explain to me how Bernie could have passed single payer in VT.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:37 AM
Nov 2015

The post asked:

9. single payer in Vermont?

Oh I forgot- he couldn't get that done


Start by doing the research here:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/01/25/costs-derail-vermont-single-payer-health-plan/VTAEZFGpWvTen0QFahW0pO/story.html

And let me know what a US Senator could have done to bring single payer to Vermont.

You're not brooklyn bad boy are you?

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
94. This is what you said to redstateblues and what I was showing you is not true:
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:02 AM
Nov 2015

"Another person who doesn't understand how the government works.

Maybe you can explain how a US Senator is supposed to pass legislation at the state level.

Don't you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself? "

Just admit you were wrong and stop being so demeaning to other posters.

Are you accusing me of having another account?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
95. So iow as a US Senator he isn't capable of passing legislation at the state level.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:08 AM
Nov 2015

That's all you had to say, thanks! As a native Vermonter I always welcome any new insight into how things could have been done differently.

And bbb is a poster at Daily kos who blames Bernie for not passing single payer healthcare in Vermont.

His diary has been posted here by HC supporters who don't understand how government works either.

Every time someone posts the same claims I wonder if it's him.

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
98. bmus I have no idea and don't really care. That was not my point. I guess I could say it again.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:29 AM
Nov 2015

You demeaned another poster by saying that s/he doesn't know how government works because for some reason you think that a US Senator cannot use influence or other means to get legislation passed at a state level.

The example provided showed exactly how it has been done.

I am not making a statement about whether Bernie could or could not do something about this particular legislation. I am objecting to a general statement that you made that is not true.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
100. That poster blamed Bernie for not getting legislature passed at the state level.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:40 AM
Nov 2015

Anyone who actually believes Bernie could have gotten it passed has no clue how government works.

I'm sick of the snide comments and attacks on Bernie, this is GDP if you come here to pick a fight you're going to find one.

Maybe they should stick to posting positive things about their candidate instead of making nasty comments about Bernie in what was supposed to be a positive thread.

I stay out of positive Hillary threads out of respect, if others can't do the same for Bernie then they deserve whatever they get.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
103. Thanks seaglass. In my state the Senators are hugely influential.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:50 AM
Nov 2015

It's a state dominated by one party and they usually get what they want. It's naive to think otherwise. I always enjoy how some Bernie supporters respond by making nasty personal attacks when they only claim to be talking about issues.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
62. I went through the video, the proof of getting sh*t accomplished was not earth shattering.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:14 PM
Nov 2015

Now if he had one bill passed Lim the minimum wage, I would have thought differently. If there was a bill similar to Dodd-Frank which was Sanders-something or something-Sanders I would believe he got sh*t done. He sponsored lots of bills this year but still not as many in 8 years of Clinton and he has been there 24 years. It I a problem believing he can get sh*t done.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
82. Here are some accomplishments
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 12:58 AM
Nov 2015

2014 VA overhaul
10 million more people covered by community health centers in ObamaCare
Rated a top 20 mayor nationwide
Got more amendments passed during the Republican controlled House 1995-2006 than any other Representative
Amended Patriot Act to require a warrant for library and bookstore records
Got Audit the Fed passed.

And more here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251605502
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128063921

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
86. That is great
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:04 AM
Nov 2015

He saved thousands of lives with those clinics in contrast to all the lives lost in Iraq.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
88. K&R -- great video, kenn3d, and it's true: Bernie knows how to get things done in D.C.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:09 AM
Nov 2015

He works hard, compromises when necessary, and always advances good causes.

He'd make a great president.

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