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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:19 PM Nov 2015

Sanders says it's time to expand and rethink Social Security

Sanders says it's time to expand and rethink Social Security
Kevin Hardy
The Des Moines Register

Sanders decried the federal government's announcement this week that it would not offer a cost of living adjustment, or COLA, next year to millions of U.S. Social Security beneficiaries. He told Iowa crowds that the government's formula for assessing whether inflation warrants an increase is broken. He wants a "segregated index" that will judge inflation based on the things senior citizens purchase, not the economy as a whole.

"What seniors are purchasing are not flat-screen TVs," Sanders said. "They are purchasing medicine. They are purchasing health care. Those costs are going up."

Sanders repeatedly slammed his Republican counterparts, who he said want to cut Social Security along with Medicare and Medicaid. Aside from readjusting the COLA calculations, Sanders said he wants to "scrap the cap," meaning he would lift the current cap on taxable income of $118,500.

Sanders also called out Clinton, the front-runner in the field. Sanders claimed that his campaign message has driven her to rethink some of her stances.

"I'm not naming any names here," he said. "But, when you raise issues and millions of people respond, other candidates look around and say, 'Hey, maybe I better move with the people rather than just the special interests.'"


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jeff47

(26,549 posts)
2. Yes, much better to support the candidate that wants to add means testing
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nov 2015

and is open to raising the retirement age for people with not-physically-demanding jobs.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. You've hit on the most important thing, but one that's
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

not clearly stated whenever people advocate raising the retirement age, by which they mean the Full Retirement Age for SS. Invariably the people that suggest it are those who work far fewer hours per year than most people. They work at, as you pointed out, not-physical-demanding jobs. And invariably they work at well-paying jobs with excellent benefits, work they find satisfying. They get promoted regularly.

Vast numbers of other workers don't have such easy working conditions, often crappy benefits, few raises -- some are even forced to accept lower wages for the same job at various times. And even jobs that aren't manual labor can wear people out.

On a related note, I've long thought that a 40 hour work week is too long. And I'm talking to actually working exactly 40 hours, no overtime, no answering emails at home or any of that. The workweek should be about 30 hours, with actual overtime greatly discouraged, and paid for at double time, not merely time and a half. I know, a bit of a pipe dream, but that's what I'd impose, were I Dictator of North America.

Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
12. Back in the '70s,
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:05 PM
Nov 2015

there was a lot of talk about a 32-hour work week. That talk fizzled when Reagan destroyed America.

This would lower health care costs (less stress and sickness) and lower unemployment (more workers needed).

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
15. Much earlier, in the 1950's, there was talk
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 11:16 PM
Nov 2015

of a twenty hour work-week, although that was largely connected to a fear that rampant "automation" would destroy jobs.

And, as I'm sure you and everyone else here knows, the reason we got the 40 hour work-week back during the Great Depression was to create more jobs. To the astonishment of bosses everywhere, workers accomplished more during 40 hours than they previously had during 60.

angrychair

(8,717 posts)
5. This is not a new subject
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:13 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie has been talking about SSI expansion for years, more than a decade. He is a single senator among many. It could be legitimately argued that Sanders has been the voice in the wilderness for the middle class and poorer Americans for decades and it is the direct reason he does not enjoy the broad support like HRC is because of that. He makes them uncomfortable as he is pushing the hard questions and demanding real solutions. Not the solutions that keep the rich in control and their SuperPACs full of money.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
4. If the employers don't want to pay pensions anymore
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:31 PM
Nov 2015

Then we need to overhaul SSI and make it a real retirement program. On the other hand, we could just go to a minimum income plan and fix the problem cradle to grave. That would be awesome

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
8. K&R! TPTB might stop treating the American worker as if we are the enemy.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:18 PM
Nov 2015

Stop sending our jobs overseas. Stop destroying pension plans. Support a decent retirement age for workers with strong social security benefits.

Either that or they might just find the tables turned in a way they are not anticipating. Talk about entitled. Those at the top of this status quo pyramid are the entitled ones that could stand to be taken down a notch or two.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. So we have Democrats willing to ignore the obvious threats to Social Security?
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:43 PM
Nov 2015

If you don't support SS you are not a Democrat.

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