2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy isn't WAR a more prominent issue? It's who we are but is it who we want to be?
We thought we were doing better by electing Barack Obama but the MIC has remained a national priority.
It's not what the American people want.
But we allow it. We allow collateral damage to be OK. We allow our government to forcibly intervene in other countries affairs taking military action instead of diplomatic.
Is that something we are proud of?
Please speak out and make 2016 the year of real change. The year America becomes about Americans. An America we can be proud of.
Please make the ending of our wars a priority.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)is on the wrong side of that issue.
It's obvious who the corporations and their media want.
I believe even many donors that would rather have a Republican choice choose Hillary because the current Republican line up really is a circus.
Hillary will keep their interests safe.
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Hillary supporters - make this an issue - Hillary is a good person and I believe she knows this is immoral. Save lives.
reddread
(6,896 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Years of shapeshifting politicians promoting wars with shapeshifting enemies have inured us to war.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)just noticed your signature.
"American support for these wars proves we're falling behind in math"
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And enriching the 1% obscenely.
Uncle Joe
(58,372 posts)Thanks for the thread, tecelote.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)But, we've become complacent and, I guess, we just care less about the people America kills in our name.
Of course, we now know the answer... War. What is it good for?
Profits
Uncle Joe
(58,372 posts)from the equation with the end of the draft.
The privatizing of the military is another dynamic that will make this even more so.
It's difficult for people to become enraged enough to form massive protests regarding the happenings of things and tragedies not immediately associated with their personal world.
The corporate media has created and fostered a bubble of unreality for the American People to live in, when it comes to the world at large, not to mention destructive economic policies here at home.
In recent years we have experienced massive protests in regards to disparate wealth inequality and economic injustice tied to government corruption because the corporate media's bubble has popped on that front as the peoples' survival has become more tenuous, increasing numbers of Americans are feeling it and this can't be denied.
Distant war is trickier to enrage the masses if the American People feel no personal stake it, corporate media propaganda will prevail so long as this holds true.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)But, that's as far as they're willing to go.
Uncle Joe
(58,372 posts)the wasted billions on intractable wars to our economic plight here at home, so that the message sinks in with the people, that's not easily done.
A direct connection must be made to war costs, the cutting of domestic spending and how that undermines the American Peoples' hold on financial security.
At some point in the future humanity may evolve past the point of waging wars and protesting them en masse without personal survivability being a major motivating qualifier but until then, the economic cost here at home will need to be used as determinant.
Moral motivations only seem to get us so far.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)polished war-con-artists. Stop participating. Don't join. Don't work for war companies. Teach your kids peace and conflict mediation through peace and unity. These are ways we can resist war oppressors.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I can't stand that my country is the muscle of multinational corporatism. Wake up people.
It costs us trillions, people all over the world hate us for it, the military authoritarian top-down warrior mentality sickens our culture, and it's morally wrong.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)for Veterans For Peace (VFP).
We aim to "abolish war an as instrument of national policy."
If you put in 2 or 3 hours a week on VFP, you can tell your
grandkids that you did try.
And you do owe it to them to try.
Stay tuned for my annual "Veterans Day" Op-ed . .
eridani
(51,907 posts)Presidents are totally dependent on others for knowing about what is really going on, and most of the informants on war issues are highly self-serving
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)why would anyone think Americans en masse give a shit?
we are the instigator of so much that is wrong with the world and yet we still act like we're morally superior enough to lob bombs into other countries at our own discretion...