That's the closest in any poll without Biden

And the previous included Biden. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from looking at the the IBD/TIPP polls by themselves, and you can't compare them directly to other polls. It's all about the aggregate, and for certain, the gap has increased between Clinton and Sanders over the last several weeks.

Will that continue? I think the numbers will likely stabilize, more or less, with Clinton around 50 and Sanders at 30, at least for now.

Not just IBD/TIPP.

Generally you can't compare individual polls, especially between pollsters. You really have to look at the aggregate. I could just as easily cherry pick a poll that shows a MASSIVE gap between Clinton and Sanders, but that would be just as specious. you really have to look at the aggregate numbers. That's why aggregate sites have been much better at predicting outcomes than individual pollsters. And the aggregate says that Clinton opened up her lead some.

ahead of Bernie all the way to Super Tuesday !

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The best they can scrounge up....

its more like 40% or so but the Bernie Revolution is a fantasy based movement.

They celebrate they candidates losing performance regardless of the margin.

celebrating BS's latest trailing numbers vs HRC!

they forget that most of that support isn't STRONG support, that it's not people running around with "Hillary" signs and knocking on doors and defending her record (whatever it's supposed to be that day) but people on the street only vaguely cognizant that there's a primary going on

Sanders is ahead in NH and even if he loses NH-IA-SC he's not gonna stop fighting until June 7--because CA-MT-NJ-NM-SD aren't states he would ever think of ignoring, let alone ignore because of some primary schedule

the more people hear about Sanders the higher his numbers get: "Clinton's good week" after the triple punch of a collected debate performance, plus Gowdy Doody's 11-hour shitfest, plus Biden's pullout saw Sanders go up as much as she did; her bounce is most likely just a reshuffling of supporters between establishment candidates--people who're happy with the status quo, or just kept nicely unaware of any other option than one well-coiffed neolib hawk or the other


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

And endorse Hillary for president I bet.

Hillary supporters on here have been rather insistent that he is not a real democrat.

I am confused.

Sid

No wonder you are confused....that would be Sanders fault.

just don't....

There, I finished your sentence.

I am voting in the primary, and convinced my entire family to vote for the candidate with integrity who doesn't take huge sums of money from billionaires, Wall St, and the private prison industry. Who doesn't have a superPAC. Who doesn't vote for needless wars. Who doesn't flip flop on major issues. So we're squarely in Bernie's camp. FIVE younger than 30-y.o voters for BERNIE

no fixing necessary....

They are the same as they always were......apathetic about politics...that is the "consistent" part.....Bernie isn't changing that.

Its what I know.....

Its not mockery if its the truth....

I'll still vote for Bernie. Some generation has to start the change of young people voting. Maybe it's this one.

I sure hope not. Hillary represents the interests of her corporate masters over young Americans. This much is clear.

I want the strongest candidate to represent us in the General....

the SCOTUS is in jeopardy....and that will effect them for FAR longer than any President will.

That is not assured of happening, but we can hope.

You do realize the system is already broken. SCOTUS or no SCOTUS, the system does not work for the majority of people. This is why Bernie is calling for a political revolution. Voting for status quo candidates because they might win does not help anybody except the top 1%. When you are people going to get it.

We had Clintons and Bushes for the last 20 years...looked out how well that has worked for us...it hasn't. It's like Clinton supporters suffer from Stockholm syndrome...yes give me more of the same shit policies that haven't help me, more wars, more neoliberal economics, and greater income equality.

we aren't going to win the General with a Democratic Socialist!

. . . eventually

I love young voters!!! My son is one too.

Go Bernie!

Though, I'm willing to bet someone will spend some time to configure all those poll-chart options just right to try to find one.

show a downward trend

That record high 31.5% for Bernie will scare you.

If you look at it that way the race is actually tightening.

She's near 60% in many polls now...

.....you regretted?

Two million bucks! Damn!!

Why would he regret representing his people as we requested?

...a bit of satirical humor, and certainly not to be taken with the level of seriousness you are displaying. It was a G-rated pun suitable for all audiences. At least for those who can recognize it for what it is.

I believe that Bernie and his supporters believe the money was well spent, and it may turn out that it was. If that happens, and he is the nominee, you can bet another two million he will have my vote and support. Until then, I'll support my current choice, and maybe have a little light-hearted fun along the way. I have no desire to ever have to utter the words "president trump".

it would be alerted, hidden, and the poster given a time out.

and yet hillary supporters find this funny

interesting......

With the never ending attacks on Hillary, this one would be minor.

i don't like unflattering pics of any candidate. long way to go...we need to focus on issues imo. and so many important ones to discuss..this is childish drivel and is distracting for any candidate

how many more times drivel will be posted today. I don't think people wants to know where the candidates are on the issues.

then its a sad election no matter who wins. issues matter. maybe now more than ever.

classes, I can't believe so many do not know bills are sponsored in Congress and with their advancement is how laws, etc are enacted. Oh, My, I am in shock.

this board represents largely people who are interested more than the average citizen. on the good news front, i see many comments from people who seem to have an extensive knowledge of history, foreign issues, and economics. when i can't understand a comment because of its depth and have to go offsite to research it, i feel hopeful

...I shall concede this round to you. You're way funnier than I am.

so much important stuff going on. that is what the focus really should be imo.

...I got one reply from someone who I think is a Clinton supporter. That makes a whole two of us that thought it was humorous. Big whoop! And you're lecturing me about "much more important stuff going on". Like what? Not enough mayo on your burger? We put up with such asinine crap like "the chosen one", its her turn", " the coronation", blah, blah, blah, and not one sliver of humor when delivered except for the joy some Bernie Supporters get out of some false sense of claiming the moral high ground over those who support HRC.

of the importance of issues like war, citizens united, and health care.

i don't have a problem with humor, but insulting humor doesn't do it for me

have a nice day

...I thought it was funny. Just as I stated, a little satirical humor. If I had meant to be insulting, you would be all-cap screaming if your reaction to this is any indication. You have a nice day too.

esp with the issues we are discussing.

i try to never do caps unless cheney's name is mentioned

Ok, I can't top that.

and i never pass up the chance to play these guys

https://m.

Good comedy is timeless. Have yourself a good night. Until we meet again.

I've been skeptical of HRC just recently , she appears to be pulling away in the Primary and kicking GOP butt in the GE polls.. its still early but i have a feeling we will do well , whether Hillary or Bernie... you guys see Trump.. he is blasing his fellow GOpers more than our guys and gals... He blasted Rubio pretty badly today.. and i think its working.. I think the GOP may nominate Trump.. if so .. we should get ready for him.. i wouldnt underestimate him and I don't think our candidates do.. as he will be lucky to get 20% of the latino vote but he will get some indies etc.. we must be ready for him...or if we get Cruz by some chance or a Trump/Cruz or Trump/Carson same thing

click on this forum.

They go to the Greatest Threads.

When HRC supporters do it, they're mudslinging corpiro-fascist third-way poop-heads, dontcha know.

All Pro-Bernie threads = The greatest post EVER!!

All Pro-Hillary threads = ALERT! ALERT! ALERT! ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

The oligarchs are at it again !

Congratulations.

Not the theoretical young ones that never show up.

and THIS Hillary Supporter doesn't mind that you support Sanders.....he isn't a Democrat after all.

We have a landline so we can have the only available HS Internet, DSL. We don't even have a phone jacked into it. The only people I know that use landline phones, are 20 years older than me and I'm 62.

Especially not Liberals!

they're all in a "political class," they NEED to keep the gravy train rolling: they NEED a $2 billion presidential campaign

someone upsetting the apple cart because they want to represent what the people need, because they want to let the people make decisions (instead of slapping governance out of their hand like the 350 million of us are a baby who's gotten its hand on a lighter)--that they can't allow

It was stupid when Romney fans were unskewing polls, it's the same when Sanders supporters are doing it.

Love the poll numbers

for president clin---- ooops.

sanders is in better shape than obama at this time, but i like your optimism. we will need it when bernie is in the ge

We will finally be able to put to bed the quaint notion that Bernie Sanders = Barack Hussein Obama.

Its soo laughable that anyone would equate these two people.

eom

their campaigns have been following similar trajectories. that is not a personality comparison.

but you are correct. They are nothing like each other. Sanders is a true progressive who's not going to sell us down the river, get us into a war, or agree to a crappy trade deal because he's been bought by the corporations. Huge differences between them you're absolutely right.

Where was Sanders then and where was Hillery? The GOPuke establishment is having kittens as Carson/Trump drive their boys into the dust. The Dem establishment is in much better shape being blessed with a candidate they all love.

Sanders is and always was a long shot from the outset. However, like the Elton John song says, we're still standing. The status quo, business as usual, BUSINESS AS USUAL, cadres in the establishment wing of the Party has all the advantages, almost all the money and almost all the favorable coverage in the MSM.

Yet, we're still standing. See you folks when the actual votes start being counted.

Until then, have a Happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas and never forget who the real enemy is.

Iowa can't come quick enough. All this shit flinging has my washing machine working overtime.

HUGE pulling away in GA



State SurveyUSA #Georgia Poll: Nov 2 Clinton 73, Sanders 16

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/politics/2015/11/02/exclusive-poll-georgia-wants-trump-president/74819370/


In the much smaller Democratic field, the 11Alive News poll shows Hillary Clinton with a crushing lead, with 73 percent support among likely Democratic primary voters. Bernie Sanders follows with 16 percent support, then Martin O'Malley with 4 percent. Those results lead SurveyUSA pollsters to conclude "Sanders is not today competitive in Georgia".

"If you're at 73 percent with a year to go in the campaign, you're feeling really good about Georgia," Democrat strategist Tharon Johnson told 11Alive's Jennifer Leslie. Johnson says Clinton's camp will need Georgia--for votes and money--if Sanders has a strong showing in Iowa and New Hampshire. .....





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they are supposed to be Bernie backers?