Bernie is so on the money of capitalist greed , he is on the side of the people. Working families are brakeing there backs, so wallstreet can have the gains, enough is is enough! I'm voting for someone who hasn't changed his views. He cares that's his biggest mistake, what kind of Society do we want to leave our kids? What kind of planet as well? Sorry folks he's the real deal, if you care about America then vote for the Burn!!!!

I agree with Bernie Sanders on most things. His "socialism" is nothing more than pure Democrat values. Tell me, though: When was the last time we elected president a 74-year-old Socialist with a heavy Brooklyn accent? Right. 2016 won't be the first time. Bernie Sanders is a cantankerous old man who has hit a hotspot in American politics. He might be elected president of the Liberal USA, but he will NEVER win a general election. It's probably good that Hillary has some competition, as long as she gets his supporters' backing in the general after he loses the nomination. Think George McGovern 1972. The last thing we need now is a republican President of the USA. And that is exactly what we will end up with if Sanders wins the primary.

People can say all they want. They said the same thing in 2008 when was the last time we elected a President with a middle name of Hussein and a name that sounds like Osama? Things are changing.

I'd like to elect someone with Democratic values AND all those things you say are negative. Might do us good for once...

See what I did there?

People have said the same about other so called "unelectable" candidates.

i thought Clintonistas took polls seriously. You know that poll after poll shows Bernie running stronger
against GOP front-runners than Hillary, and not by just a few points.

And this ^ is in a climate where polls also show Clinton leading Sanders in the primary.

You can't pick and choose the polls you believe reflect reality.

--the alienated 63% who didn't vote in 2014. Note that in 1972, the pro-war hardhats were benefiting from the highest median wage ever. It has been massively downhill for them since then.

w/o Bernie there will be no chance of a democratic or Democratic government.
I know you're scared, I am too. Districts get redrawn by the bad guys in 2020,
if, we back down. "Stand on principle, even if you stand alone" John Adams
And you will not be standing alone! Take a good look at my man, if GWB jr. can
come close to being elected President, twice! ; and an AA man named, well you
know all 3 of his names, CAN get elected, twice! Sen. Sanders has a better
chance than you think, the demographics and the hope for real change will win.
Remember Teddy and FDR were also from New York and Reagan was old.

He's a liberal in his policies and values. That's what matters.

After certain DUers began trying to slime Bernie, I did some research and learned that I am a Social Democrat, too. And so are most Americans, though, like earlier this year, they may not realize it yet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12806844

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128028964

"Wall Street regulation? You knew I was kidding, right?"

"Against Keystone? Ha. I didn't really mean that."

"TPP...Well I took another look and decided it's not so bad after all."

Clinton vacillates, and takes positions that are politiclly cnvenient? Hardly an observation limited to the right wing.

And yes DWS is a Clintonite, and she does her bidding...She may not receive standing orders, but she knows where her bread is buttered.

And yes Third Way is a coherent and influential think tank and advocacy group with close ties to the Clintons. If you think that's fine, you're obviously entitled to your opinion. But you can;t honestly deny it.

2016: the year the establishment forgot where their votes come from

Bernie appropriately calls himself a Senator now - because he is a Senator. If he loses the nomination he will still be a Senator, and if he wins the nomination he will continue to be a Senator until Election Day, when he he will become the President-elect.

“Everything I’m telling you may end up being wrong,” Bernie Sanders, the Vermont senator seeking the Democratic nomination for president, said early in our conversation on Thursday.

I had written an article concluding he had slim chances of winning the nomination, based on the limits of his ideological appeal. Mr. Sanders was building a coalition of liberals, as have past liberal anti-establishment Democrats, and it was likely to fall short.

But Mr. Sanders, who has surged in the polls against Hillary Clinton, called to advance a different theory of the race. “I look at these things more from a class perspective,” he said.

“I’m not a liberal. Never have been. I’m a progressive who mostly focuses on the working and middle class.”

The difference between a liberal and a progressive focused on workers might seem slim, but it nonetheless shapes how he envisions the potential of the political coalition he hopes to assemble. He believes he can mobilize a working-class coalition spanning ideological divides.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/upshot/class-or-ideology-my-conversation-with-bernie-sanders.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1

Liberals in the 60's and early 70's were seen as not great by the more left leaning. A lot of that had to do with the Vietnam War and the social schisms of the time. And the beginnings of the Cotpotate Takeover that was to come. So socialist or progressive was seen as an alternative to liberal.

But these days, we have gone so far into the right-wing corporate miasma that such distinctions are hair splitting. These days anyone who stands aganst excessive corproate power, and defends the social safety net from the conservative and "pragmatic centrist" efforts to remove or weaken them is the same. Call it socialist, liberal...whatever.

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat,” he said in a profile in New England Monthly.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/bernie-sanders-2016-democrats-121181#ixzz3qIPKcEVt

are no more, and haven't been in as great numbers or proportionally since the Clinton's started hoodwinking America into thinking that they were "liberals" of that kind.

To spare my typing fingers, I'll just say see my post above.

but thanks for revisiting it for the slower ones around here.

It's the Hillarian problem in a nutshell -- other than his gun control votes, they have little to honestly and reasonably criticize, unlike the problem she has with us single-payer supporting, anti-war, etc, etc, etc types.

That's why their efforts to do so are so rightwing-like in nature and character. ANd if you look into the issues as opposed to just the number of issues they've respectively been on the wrong side of, like the number of uninsured, underinsured, etc BS wants to eliminate with the single-payer she opposes, her Iraq War vote, etc, she can't even budge him on any moral scale I'd recognize.

If politics and morality are inseparable as the Great Satan Raygun once argued, well, there's simply no argument as to who is sucking hind tit on the morality scales, and has been for decades.

ANd to hell with her "evolving". Bernie's judgement as evidenced in and by his record on just about everything political, shows that in the "here and now" while serving as pres, he's the better choice compared to the one now coming around to his way of thinking on this and that, the "Joan-come-lately".

show that their ideological tastes are midway between the two parties', or 50/50

the declining turnout is because politics has become "too extreme" and there's some polarizing vitriol between the two candidates--and that vitriol indicates that the candidates are distant and are arguing over ideological points (rather than trying to distinguish themselves through personal attacks that mask ideological similarity)

so her faction ultimately assumes that this is how politics operates--that you just need to tweak the message right, line up the right constituencies, and the election's yours; similarly you just need to keep the cowboys out of humanitarian interventions (like Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, and the Surge would be over real soon and cut all our Mideastern Gordian knots to boot!); we'll also do neoliberalism RIGHT, and make the country wait out the teething pains (which have somehow manged to carry on for 50 years now)

Bernie is a New Deal Democrat at heart. And you're right - what he advocates is what most people would like to see.

want anymore.

Our establishment is better than the GOPs when it comes to blaming anyone but themselves for losing elections.

By the New Democrats in the 90's, can they actually come back and reclaim the party? Once the egg is broken...?

We're now more the other half of the Republican Party than ever before, and HRC is what we once would have called a liberal Republican. Is she not?

Do we have a truly two party system, or a one-and-a-half party system, with one clearly corporate conservative party and moderate corporate party?

great ideas and policies back into the dialog.

I don't think I could argue Hillary's coded, careful, deceptive, watered down, shifting policy positions.
I can only speak "dang liberal" fluently.