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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:00 PM Nov 2015

Elizabeth Warren for President

Well, one can dream.....

I love Bernie, and will support him to the end. But I think Warren would have had more mainstream appeal for Dems, while actually representing a change from the stagnant status quo, and the solidifying of the Bi-Partisan Oligarchy.

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Elizabeth Warren for President (Original Post) Armstead Nov 2015 OP
Soon Elizabeth Warren will endorse Clinton. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #1
So will Bernie workinclasszero Nov 2015 #2
Bernie might....But in a "better a democrat than a republican" way Armstead Nov 2015 #6
Have you no shame, sir? Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #28
Bernie, in fact, did say he would vote for Clinton should he lose in the Primaries. That's Cal33 Nov 2015 #33
So what? I assume she will eventually Armstead Nov 2015 #3
I don't think she will be gritting her teeth, she knows Clinton is a very smart person. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #5
There's no dospute that Clinton is a very smart person. Armstead Nov 2015 #7
They will be assimilated into the ClintonBorg. reformist2 Nov 2015 #20
She probably would have more crossover appeal Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #4
Well I guess that's a foretaste of what she would have encountered for daring to challenge Hillary Armstead Nov 2015 #8
So your think that is a non issue ? JI7 Nov 2015 #15
Yep. It's a non-issue. Armstead Nov 2015 #18
she would probably have less support than sanders JI7 Nov 2015 #9
You may be right. It's Bill and Hill's World. Armstead Nov 2015 #10
This is NOT over yet. Please stop sounding like it is. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #11
You're right. I just get frustrated at seeing us doing another version of the Lemming 90's Armstead Nov 2015 #13
Warren and Bernie would have been basically the same on positions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #17
There would be a "problem" for anyone not Hillary Armstead Nov 2015 #19
Except that 'being a former Republican' is also true for the Goldwater Girl. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #21
be still my heart. I'm still Karma13612 Nov 2015 #22
Yes, I hear you. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #23
Things would look a lot different right now. Nt NCTraveler Nov 2015 #12
after the things you kept posting i don't know how you could be ok with Warren JI7 Nov 2015 #14
What do you think I would find offensive about Warren? Armstead Nov 2015 #16
In some ways I prefer Warren and in other ways Sanders. Vattel Nov 2015 #24
I think Warren would beat Clinton head to head. DemocraticWing Nov 2015 #25
Warren did not want the job, and no matter what her people did, they could not force her. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #26
I believe that Clinton and Warren are friends. Koinos Nov 2015 #27
Jim Imhoff, among others Armstead Nov 2015 #30
Thanks, Armstead. Koinos Nov 2015 #32
Yes, she is the greatest! Too bad she ain't running. Nobody is capable of beating her for president Cal33 Nov 2015 #29
I'd love to see LWolf Nov 2015 #31
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. Bernie might....But in a "better a democrat than a republican" way
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:07 PM
Nov 2015

Then he'll go home and say "Shit, shit,shit. I knew I was right all along that neither party is open to any real change or reform."

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
28. Have you no shame, sir?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 07:50 AM
Nov 2015

Really, have you no shame?

"So Hillary uses racism and right wing attack thugs to defeat Obama
No surprise here. Hillary is a traitor to the dem party already for her many endorsements of her good buddy McCain over Obama for president.

"I despise this woman and her despicable lack of morals.

"Hillary Clinton will never set foot in the White House as president. If she steals the nomination somehow the dem party will again snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

"And we will all have to go through this garbage again in 2012."

workinclasszero, post #76

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5168167

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
33. Bernie, in fact, did say he would vote for Clinton should he lose in the Primaries. That's
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

the sensible and gentlemanly thing to do. I'm sure he would also urge all Democrats to
do the same.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
3. So what? I assume she will eventually
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:04 PM
Nov 2015

But she will be silently gritting her teeth while being a "good loyal Democrat."

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. She probably would have more crossover appeal
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:04 PM
Nov 2015

especially considering the fact she was a Republican well into her 40's and she supported Reagan and Poppy Bush.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
8. Well I guess that's a foretaste of what she would have encountered for daring to challenge Hillary
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:11 PM
Nov 2015

And the reason she probably said to herself "Screw that noise. Who need's that nonsense?"

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. This is NOT over yet. Please stop sounding like it is.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:18 PM
Nov 2015

There's a lot going on we don't see, and any fucking thing can happen, like tomorrow.

Keep the faith and use your words carefully, they have power.

For example, what if Warren were to endorse Bernie? .. and do it in a way that hinted
that she'd be delighted to be his VP?

Don't give up the ship just yet Matey.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
17. Warren and Bernie would have been basically the same on positions.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:22 PM
Nov 2015

It's why he waited to see if she was going to get in before he announced. The big advantages she would have had over Bernie against Hillary would have been A) being female, and B) not having a 'gun problem'. But you can bet her being a former Republican would have been played up bigtime.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
19. There would be a "problem" for anyone not Hillary
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:26 PM
Nov 2015

For someone else it would be the awful way they comb their hair or something.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. Except that 'being a former Republican' is also true for the Goldwater Girl.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:48 PM
Nov 2015

maybe not as far back, but hey ...

Interesting how her foray into GOP Land (1991-96) overlaps with Big Dawg's time in the WH (1993-2001).

Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
22. be still my heart. I'm still
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 07:54 PM
Nov 2015

hurting because she didn't run for President this time around.

I am fully behind Bernie, but I can't help but wonder what this campaign season would look like right now if EW was one of the candidates.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
24. In some ways I prefer Warren and in other ways Sanders.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

She has a great deal of real expertise in economics that neither Sanders nor Clinton has. But as far as I can see, Sanders is less hawkish than Warren, and is more anti-surveillance state and pro-privacy. He is progressive across the board (except maybe on guns), and she is not.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
25. I think Warren would beat Clinton head to head.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:58 PM
Nov 2015

She inspires the same people as Bernie, but seems to be more popular with the mushy middle of the Democratic primary electorate.

Now for a dose of realpolitik, the gender gap would be less significant as well. This is what is sinking Bernie's campaign according to recent polls.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. Warren did not want the job, and no matter what her people did, they could not force her.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:00 PM
Nov 2015

She is one of our best Senators, and we desperately need her there.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
27. I believe that Clinton and Warren are friends.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:31 PM
Nov 2015

That counts for something. Friends don't have to agree about everything.

In fact, Clinton has many friends in the Senate (including Sanders). That may be hard for some who dislike Clinton to believe.

There is a good deal of collegiality among Democrats in the Senate.

Who, by the way, are Sanders' best friends in the Senate?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
30. Jim Imhoff, among others
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:34 AM
Nov 2015

They agree on absolutely nothing, and go after ach otehr on issues, but Imhoff likes and respects Sanders for his integrity and fighting spirit

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
29. Yes, she is the greatest! Too bad she ain't running. Nobody is capable of beating her for president
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 09:31 AM
Nov 2015
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