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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThomas Frank thinks Obama will be less conciliatory in a second term
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/22/thomas_frank_obamas_squandered_hope/Q: Its almost impossible to imagine Democrats being this effective in opposition, ever.
Its because they dont believe in fighting. Theyre campaigning much more effectively this time around than they have in the past. I mean, John Kerry just took it, you know? Theyre not doing that this time, theyre fighting back hard, and I like to see that. And Obama, hes doing the populist thing, which is the right thing to do when youre faced with a guy like Mitt Romney, one of the richest men in America. That is certainly the right way to play it, and Im enjoying it a lot. I mean, Im loving watching this campaign unfold. Its a lot of fun. But thats a spectator sport, and it shouldnt blind us to what he has actually done in the White House in the last four years. He hasntbeen he kind of president that his political rhetoric would imply.
Q: Do you think he has learned lessons in a first term that hed apply in a second in a more aggressive, progressive politics?
Oh I think he has, and I think he changed the turning point for him I think was the debt ceiling showdown with the Republicans. It became so screamingly obvious that it would be impossible for him not to realize it. He was still talking about a grand bargain at that point. He put Social Security on the table and that still wasnt enough.
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Thomas Frank thinks Obama will be less conciliatory in a second term (Original Post)
eridani
Aug 2012
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UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)1. Agree!
I think that President Obama finally realized that the GOP was just playing him along. I believe he will not hold back what is good for the average American for fake compromise from the GOP during his second term.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)2. in their districts
There must be some way to keep government spending out of the districts of the tea folks who claim they don't want it. No road repairs, no projects, no contracts, no new convention centers. That would be payback enough.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)3. The real issue for Dems is that Republicans are happy if the govenment does absolutely nothing.
The Dems, when in power, actually want to have the government try to solve some problems. The GOP doesn't want to do that.
So to get anything done at all, the Dems end up compromising.