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Omaha Steve

(99,722 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:02 PM Nov 2015

Sanders: Senate votes are what I’m paid to do (Hillary not so much)

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Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., speaks during a town hall meeting at William Penn University, Monday, Oct. 19, 2015, in Oskaloosa, Iowa.
CHARLIE NEIBERGALL — AP

http://www.kentucky.com/2015/11/03/4120416_sanders-senate-votes-are-what.html?rh=1

BY LESLEY CLARK
lclark@mcclatchydc.comNovember 3, 2015 Updated 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON — U.S. senators running for president often miss a lot of Senate votes. (See Marco Rubio for the 2016 version and Barack Obama for the 2008 edition) But they’re not Bernie Sanders.

The Vermont senator has missed just 4 percent of Senate votes, compared to 42 percent for Rubio, MSNBC calculated -- and Sanders says he doesn’t like to miss any.

“That's kind of what I'm paid to do,” Sanders told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday. He added that he would miss votes, but said “I'm trying to miss as few as I possibly can.

“I am extraordinarily proud to represent my great state in the Senate,” Sanders said. “We’re working very hard on a number of issues. And while it is difficult and very time-consuming to be a full-time candidate and to be a full-time senator, that is at the moment what I'm trying to do.”

FULL story at link.

Bernie misses about 5% while Hillary was at 83.5 The chart below is interactive: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/2/9645384/rubio-missing-votes



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Sanders: Senate votes are what I’m paid to do (Hillary not so much) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2015 OP
Comparing 6 months to a couple of years? Hillary isn't missing any this time Bernie not so much. upaloopa Nov 2015 #1
Comparing apples to oranges? HassleCat Nov 2015 #2
Don't waste logic on that one! artislife Nov 2015 #12
So...not able to see the yellow line on that chart, then? jeff47 Nov 2015 #3
This isn't a real issue with people. upaloopa Nov 2015 #4
Of course not. It reflects well on Sanders, so it doesn't matter at all. jeff47 Nov 2015 #6
This is a real issue. artislife Nov 2015 #14
It is an issue. Bernie is better. 840high Nov 2015 #16
The comparison is time missed during a run for presidency... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #7
Bernie is diligent Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #5
Who cares? onenote Nov 2015 #8
Who cares? I do eom artislife Nov 2015 #15
Actually, it looks like you do.... daleanime Nov 2015 #17
Thank you Bernie... SoapBox Nov 2015 #9
Sanders knows his responsibilties to the people, nuff said n/t slipslidingaway Nov 2015 #10
He's such a decent man. n/t zentrum Nov 2015 #11
Agreed, he has been consistent over decades. nt slipslidingaway Nov 2015 #13
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Comparing apples to oranges?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:29 PM
Nov 2015

You are definitely missing something. We call it "the point." Bernie Sanders is not a conventional politician. This is just one small example of the way he differs from other people who run for office. You can dislike him because of that, or for any reason you want, but it's true.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
12. Don't waste logic on that one!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:09 AM
Nov 2015

Some like the murkiness.

I like the fact that Bernie can do more than one thing at a time.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. So...not able to see the yellow line on that chart, then?
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:31 PM
Nov 2015

Or are you complaining that the chart does not predict the future?

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. This isn't a real issue with people.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:44 PM
Nov 2015

Everyone knows how much time running for President takes. Just look at your chart.
I don't know about you but I want to beat the repubs in November.

If repubs get to nominate the next four Supreme Court Justices you can kiss you future goodby. Meanwhile you play these chicken shit Bernie is better than Hillary games.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. Of course not. It reflects well on Sanders, so it doesn't matter at all.
Tue Nov 3, 2015, 11:48 PM
Nov 2015

Btw, did you think no one noticed the sudden abandonment of your previous argument?
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
14. This is a real issue.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:10 AM
Nov 2015

It is called the primaries, that is why we compare the candidates against each other. That is why there are primaries.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
7. The comparison is time missed during a run for presidency...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:21 AM
Nov 2015

In the final analysis, which is the end of next year, we'll see if the percentages are representative. So far, they state clearly that one handles responsibility over presidential run far better than the other one does.

onenote

(42,762 posts)
8. Who cares?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 12:22 AM
Nov 2015

Obama missed votes. Kerry missed votes. Most candidates miss votes. The chart that Vox manufactured would look a lot different if instead of starting at 22 months out it started at 24 months out (since Bernie missed 33 percent of the votes in Nov and Dec of 2014). Or one could compare records from the date each candidate declared or for the first X months of their campaigns. Or one could compare the number of votes cast instead of the percentage of votes missed. Bernie would have a better record than Clinton using most, but not all of these metrics. Vox however has chosen to create a really absurd comparison by looking one month (22) votes for Bernie against three months for Clinton. If Vox had wanted to make a more valid comparison they could have compared Clinton's October 2007 record to Bernie's October 2015 record. Bernie wins the comparison but instead of it being 5/83.5 it's more like 5 percent/50 percent.

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