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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:26 PM Nov 2015

Quinnipiac: Rubio, Christie, Cruz, and Carson beat Clinton and Sanders

EDIT: I had read Clinton's wrong; sorry. Thanks.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf

Clinton beats Trump (46/43), and loses to Cruz (43/46), and Christie (41/46), Rubio (41/46) and Carson (40/50).

Sanders beats Trump (46/44), and loses to Cruz (44/45), Christie (42/45), Rubio (41/47), and Carson (39/51).

As of right now Carson is pretty much handing us our asses.

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Quinnipiac: Rubio, Christie, Cruz, and Carson beat Clinton and Sanders (Original Post) Recursion Nov 2015 OP
Is it time to move to Canada yet? I don't know about this poll, but Quinnipac in recent past polls still_one Nov 2015 #1
Maybe... Agschmid Nov 2015 #3
Funny you want to go to Canada artislife Nov 2015 #16
Huh? The leader furthest to the left in Canada saw his party (the NDP) lose many seats. Metric System Nov 2015 #19
That is true, I stand corrected. artislife Nov 2015 #24
A bit scary. Koinos Nov 2015 #2
It's early yet Recursion Nov 2015 #8
I question how meaningful BootinUp Nov 2015 #4
Why is it so difficult Segami Nov 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Nov 2015 #7
It isn't. The demographics of the country is changing in a big way, and I cannot see the still_one Nov 2015 #10
George got 45 percent of the Hispanic vote yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #11
bush got the Hispanic vote because the republicans didn't take the anti-Hispanic stand they are still_one Nov 2015 #15
They have 2 Latinos. artislife Nov 2015 #17
Rubio and Cruz are consistent with the republican party anti-immigration stance, which is NOT still_one Nov 2015 #18
And yet, having a Latino in the WH may be enticing. nt artislife Nov 2015 #23
agreed, but so would having a woman or a Jew. still_one Nov 2015 #25
These last ten years artislife Nov 2015 #26
I agree. As far as politics are concerned, the republicans fuel a lot of that rhetoric, still_one Nov 2015 #28
Quinnipiac-R (New Haven) stands alone on this very early assumption. Dawson Leery Nov 2015 #6
It's strange that half the public Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #9
This early on, polls are meaningless. Mass Nov 2015 #12
Didn't Carson do evil experiments on fetuses? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #13
OP is wrong, Christie and Cruz also beat Hillary jfern Nov 2015 #14
Thanks. I read the columns backwards. So it's a giant suck-fest for everybody. Recursion Nov 2015 #20
I'm a Bernie supporter, but I'd support your candidate jfern Nov 2015 #21
That may be a proxy for "who the hell is that?" Recursion Nov 2015 #22
I think it's going to be very tough for dems to win gwheezie Nov 2015 #27
Well vadermike Nov 2015 #29
No, this is shit. MANY other recent polls show Hillary beating EVERY Re-PUKE. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #30
No this is BS. MANY recent polls show Clinton beating every RePUKE. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #31
Could well be. Let's hope so. Recursion Nov 2015 #32
We should NEVER be complacent, but this does not mean that ANY poll this early has meaning. Mass Nov 2015 #33
Sure. Wait until the democratic candidate and workinclasszero Nov 2015 #34

still_one

(92,433 posts)
1. Is it time to move to Canada yet? I don't know about this poll, but Quinnipac in recent past polls
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:31 PM
Nov 2015

was oversampling republicans.

I really question this poll. The demographics of the country is changing in a big way. I cannot see the republicans doing well with African Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, etc.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. Funny you want to go to Canada
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:38 AM
Nov 2015

They voted for the candidate furthest to the left. Canada might be too socialist for you all.

BootinUp

(47,200 posts)
4. I question how meaningful
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:36 PM
Nov 2015

these are though. For a couple reasons: Not that many people are yet paying attention. And the views and history of a lot of these candidates can't be all that well known.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
5. Why is it so difficult
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:36 PM
Nov 2015

for (the leading Democratic candidate) Hillary Clinton, to beat a bunch of fowl-mouthed, repugnant republican clowns?

I mean, after all, they're only clowns?





Response to Segami (Reply #5)

still_one

(92,433 posts)
10. It isn't. The demographics of the country is changing in a big way, and I cannot see the
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:54 PM
Nov 2015

republicans doing well with those demographics which include African Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, etc.

I really believe that anyone of our three Democratic candidates WILL do well in the general election against ANY of the republican candidates. I think this poll is an outlier.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. George got 45 percent of the Hispanic vote
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

Who knows what will happen. I thought the Republican Party was on life support but found out the have everything but 18 governors, 12 state houses, 146 house and 46 senate and of course president. Lord knows how this election will turn out. One thing for sure much will be polled on.

still_one

(92,433 posts)
15. bush got the Hispanic vote because the republicans didn't take the anti-Hispanic stand they are
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:38 AM
Nov 2015

taking now. In fact recent polls reflect that the republican party is losing the Hispanic support, and the other demographics I mentioned, and while nothing is certain, that really doesn't bode well for them.


 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
17. They have 2 Latinos.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:42 AM
Nov 2015

It might be tempting to put one of them in for many. How much would that do to change the hate many have felt?

still_one

(92,433 posts)
18. Rubio and Cruz are consistent with the republican party anti-immigration stance, which is NOT
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:54 AM
Nov 2015

necessarily the view of Hispanic Americans.

Rubio was for immigration reform, but as recently as today he has come out saying he would end protections for Dreamers even without immigration reform

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
26. These last ten years
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:00 AM
Nov 2015

the rhetoric against us in the Latino community has gotten higher and higher. I haven't felt that much animosity because I am a woman but the race thing is worse than when I was growing up.

still_one

(92,433 posts)
28. I agree. As far as politics are concerned, the republicans fuel a lot of that rhetoric,
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:27 AM
Nov 2015

and I don't see Rubio or Cruz speaking out that forcibly against it. Actually, bush is the only republican candidate I see really speaking out against anti-latino sentiment that seems to have taken over the republican party.

To your general point regarding race animosity, a lot of it is due to typical "scape goating", where ignorant people, who most likely always had racist tendencies, used that to justify why things aren't going well for them.

Hate crimes against Latinos has been increasing nationwide for sometime, and the rhetoric Trump uses no doubt will inspire more hate crimes against Latinos.

What is very troublesome is the media appears to be presenting this as "business as usual", and it shouldn't be.

The positive news is that the demographics are changing, and I believe things will get better.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
9. It's strange that half the public
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 11:51 PM
Nov 2015

...is open to making Dr. Ben Carson the president, when he's never had a government job.

And unlike Ralph Nader, wasn't a lobbyist for consumers.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. This early on, polls are meaningless.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:05 AM
Nov 2015

Even the focus on primary polls this early is not that meaningfull (a little bit more for IA and NH, but even there), but spending time on GE national poll really means nothing.

This is good for media ratings, but that is all.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. Thanks. I read the columns backwards. So it's a giant suck-fest for everybody.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:13 AM
Nov 2015

Meanwhile, my guy has the highest percent of "never support" among Democrats

jfern

(5,204 posts)
21. I'm a Bernie supporter, but I'd support your candidate
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:17 AM
Nov 2015

Beats me why those numbers were so high for him.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
27. I think it's going to be very tough for dems to win
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:15 AM
Nov 2015

I think some of us are either too confident or delusional when it comes to our nominee no matter who it is.

vadermike

(1,417 posts)
29. Well
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:41 AM
Nov 2015

We could lose but to these clowns ?? God then we are fucked as a party and as a country for a long time to come. God tell me these polls are wrong? Should we just give up now ? I mean c'mon

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
30. No, this is shit. MANY other recent polls show Hillary beating EVERY Re-PUKE.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:13 AM
Nov 2015

Plus, polls don't mean much now.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
31. No this is BS. MANY recent polls show Clinton beating every RePUKE.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:15 AM
Nov 2015

This is some BS outlier and polls don't mean much right now anyway.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
33. We should NEVER be complacent, but this does not mean that ANY poll this early has meaning.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:39 AM
Nov 2015

I have been advocating this when it came to Trump months ago. But it is also not worth spending out time worrying on this.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
34. Sure. Wait until the democratic candidate and
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:54 AM
Nov 2015

the teahaddist debate.

We will see how popular killing social security, medicare and SSI, with large tax breaks for millionaires of course, is with the american people in favor of all of that money fed into the bloody maw of the MIC and Forever War.

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