2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumQuinnipiac: Rubio, Christie, Cruz, and Carson beat Clinton and Sanders
EDIT: I had read Clinton's wrong; sorry. Thanks.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf
Clinton beats Trump (46/43), and loses to Cruz (43/46), and Christie (41/46), Rubio (41/46) and Carson (40/50).
Sanders beats Trump (46/44), and loses to Cruz (44/45), Christie (42/45), Rubio (41/47), and Carson (39/51).
As of right now Carson is pretty much handing us our asses.
still_one
(92,433 posts)was oversampling republicans.
I really question this poll. The demographics of the country is changing in a big way. I cannot see the republicans doing well with African Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, etc.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Yikes.
artislife
(9,497 posts)They voted for the candidate furthest to the left. Canada might be too socialist for you all.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Trudeau still may be too left anyway...
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)But still...
BootinUp
(47,200 posts)these are though. For a couple reasons: Not that many people are yet paying attention. And the views and history of a lot of these candidates can't be all that well known.
Segami
(14,923 posts)for (the leading Democratic candidate) Hillary Clinton, to beat a bunch of fowl-mouthed, repugnant republican clowns?
I mean, after all, they're only clowns?
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still_one
(92,433 posts)republicans doing well with those demographics which include African Americans, Hispanic Americans, women, etc.
I really believe that anyone of our three Democratic candidates WILL do well in the general election against ANY of the republican candidates. I think this poll is an outlier.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Who knows what will happen. I thought the Republican Party was on life support but found out the have everything but 18 governors, 12 state houses, 146 house and 46 senate and of course president. Lord knows how this election will turn out. One thing for sure much will be polled on.
still_one
(92,433 posts)taking now. In fact recent polls reflect that the republican party is losing the Hispanic support, and the other demographics I mentioned, and while nothing is certain, that really doesn't bode well for them.
artislife
(9,497 posts)It might be tempting to put one of them in for many. How much would that do to change the hate many have felt?
still_one
(92,433 posts)necessarily the view of Hispanic Americans.
Rubio was for immigration reform, but as recently as today he has come out saying he would end protections for Dreamers even without immigration reform
artislife
(9,497 posts)still_one
(92,433 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)the rhetoric against us in the Latino community has gotten higher and higher. I haven't felt that much animosity because I am a woman but the race thing is worse than when I was growing up.
still_one
(92,433 posts)and I don't see Rubio or Cruz speaking out that forcibly against it. Actually, bush is the only republican candidate I see really speaking out against anti-latino sentiment that seems to have taken over the republican party.
To your general point regarding race animosity, a lot of it is due to typical "scape goating", where ignorant people, who most likely always had racist tendencies, used that to justify why things aren't going well for them.
Hate crimes against Latinos has been increasing nationwide for sometime, and the rhetoric Trump uses no doubt will inspire more hate crimes against Latinos.
What is very troublesome is the media appears to be presenting this as "business as usual", and it shouldn't be.
The positive news is that the demographics are changing, and I believe things will get better.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...is open to making Dr. Ben Carson the president, when he's never had a government job.
And unlike Ralph Nader, wasn't a lobbyist for consumers.
Mass
(27,315 posts)Even the focus on primary polls this early is not that meaningfull (a little bit more for IA and NH, but even there), but spending time on GE national poll really means nothing.
This is good for media ratings, but that is all.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)He looks like he is on something
jfern
(5,204 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Meanwhile, my guy has the highest percent of "never support" among Democrats
jfern
(5,204 posts)Beats me why those numbers were so high for him.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I think some of us are either too confident or delusional when it comes to our nominee no matter who it is.
vadermike
(1,417 posts)We could lose but to these clowns ?? God then we are fucked as a party and as a country for a long time to come. God tell me these polls are wrong? Should we just give up now ? I mean c'mon
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Plus, polls don't mean much now.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)This is some BS outlier and polls don't mean much right now anyway.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I just think our complacency needs to end yesterday.
Mass
(27,315 posts)I have been advocating this when it came to Trump months ago. But it is also not worth spending out time worrying on this.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)the teahaddist debate.
We will see how popular killing social security, medicare and SSI, with large tax breaks for millionaires of course, is with the american people in favor of all of that money fed into the bloody maw of the MIC and Forever War.