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By Jake Tapper, and The Lead staff
Updated 6:59 PM ET, Mon June 15, 2015
Washington (CNN)Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, seems reluctant to take a firm position on an issue dividing her party: whether President Obama should have fast-track trading authority for the immense trade deal he has been negotiating, the Trans-Pacific Partnership. With some progressive voters eyeing her with some skepticism, and facing a challenge (such as it is) from candidates on her left, she is being advised to tack in that direction.
President Obama has been pushing hard for the deal, while Democrats in the House of Representatives on Friday revolted and voted against a key part of the legislation. One told me, "there was a very strong concern about the lost jobs and growing income inequality," adding, pointedly: "Ms. Clinton should take notice."
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But as members of the Obama administration can attest, Clinton was one of the leading drivers of the TPP when Secretary of State. Here are 45 instances when she approvingly invoked the trade bill about which she is now expressing concerns:
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)think
(11,641 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)think
(11,641 posts)seems discussing a candidates position on this controversial trade deal is more than appropriate.
But discussing the issues and facts seems to be something you'd prefer to avoid.
bulloney
(4,113 posts)People can be so blindly loyal to a person or party that they go against their own interests.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)For example:
"New Zealand warmly supports the United States rebalancing towards the Asia-Pacific and we welcome the opportunities to cooperate further. In that context, we discussed our ongoing efforts to negotiate, alongside a number of other countries, a Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement."
I've enthusiastically negotiated any number of agreements with the ultimate result that no agreement was reached.
Are you saying that the US should not be attempting to negotiate acceptable trade treaties?
Pushing forward on negotiations, as the Secretary of State is required to do, and being happy or unhappy with the final result, are two different things.
think
(11,641 posts)Clinton had a voice. She chose to call it the gold standard. If she didn't believe that she could have spoke up or at least said nothing that might be construed as less than factual.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/politics/45-times-secretary-clinton-pushed-the-trade-bill-she-now-opposes/
The more than 600 corporate advisers worked on this trade agreement back when Clinton was still SoS. If anything changed since she was promoting it is that it is most likely less corporate friendly due to all the pressure from the majority of Democrats in the House and the labor unions.
151 House Democrats came out against fast tracking the TPP over concerns that the TTP was not the great free trade agreement it was touted it would be.
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)with the H1B visas. How our glorious leaders have helped the poor people around the world by bringing them here to help our wonderful leaders of our great patriotic corporations. Through their great insight we will learn how these poor workers managed to live in their home countries. We will learn how to feed and clothe and house our families on pennies a day.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)that shut down and moved to Mexico after NAFTA was passed
Whirlpool-- Ft.Smith
Guardian Glass-- Rogers
Emerson Electric-- Rogers
Levi Strauss-- Fayetteville and Harrison
There are probably more.
LiberalArkie
(15,730 posts)it is becoming all Indian at IT centers. They are talking about 5000 today and Nov 16. Earlier in the week it was said that VZ was cutting 6 regions down to 2 with about 10%-20% RIF.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I like integrity.
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)is based on her being a candidate pandering for votes. If she were already in the office for which she seeks, she'd be a firm yes on TPP. But of course, her followers are willingly blind to this fact.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and she's as much Clinton as everything that isn't Clinton is non-Clinton: thus and therefore anything that isn't NOT Clinton is necessarily Clinton
Clinton Clinton
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Have a very Clinton Clinton! 
jalan48
(13,894 posts)I thought it was understood she would let us know once she was elected.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)I doubt very few, if any, of you commenting and posting on this thread have actually looked at the source material for this article.
I have.
What it should say is that Clinton, as SoS, "mentioned" TPP 45 times. Yes, a few of those times could be interpreted as highlighting potential positives or "pushing" if you like.
But on the whole this is just another hyperbolic bit of nonsense used to make Clinton look bad. And it's not the first time this crap has been posted on DU. The article is from June
