2016 Postmortem

Bonobo

(29,257 posts) Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:16 PM Nov 2015

Is Hillary both a Progressive AND a Centrist at the same time? Is that possible?

She has claimed to be both a Progressive and a Centrist at different times during this campaign season, to appeal to different audiences. Is she both? Is that possible?

Of course, you may say that labels are just labels, which is true to a point I suppose, but what is undeniable is that the willingness -eagerness even- to shed one's skin and adopt another guise for the purpose of political pandering is not the sign of a person with deeply held convictions. It is an augur of what we can expect from her presidency. A rudderless, compass-free series of political tacking based on the way the wind is blowing.

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Is Hillary both a Progressive AND a Centrist at the same time? Is that possible? (Original Post) Bonobo Nov 2015 OP

You have yet to master DoubleThink, my friend. Maedhros Nov 2015 #1

You would have to claim that she is a "progressive Republican" to get there though. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2

Humpty Dumpty Fumesucker Nov 2015 #3

Hillary is a politician. earthside Nov 2015 #4

Progressive?...What a laugh; not hardly, and she never was. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #5

Not sure why she would do that angrychair Nov 2015 #6

weathervane. n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #7

George HW Bush was progressive and conservative Gman Nov 2015 #8

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)

1. You have yet to master DoubleThink, my friend.

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:18 PM

Nov 2015

Once you do so, you will be able to love Big Brother (or Sister, as it were).

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)

2. You would have to claim that she is a "progressive Republican" to get there though.

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:23 PM

Nov 2015

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)

3. Humpty Dumpty

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:31 PM

Nov 2015

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."

earthside

(6,960 posts)

4. Hillary is a politician.

Reply to Bonobo (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:40 PM

Nov 2015

And she is the worst kind of politician ... she will go with whatever she thinks will be advantageous for her.

If advocating for gun control will get her past Sanders, then she will be a gun control advocate.
If being against gun control will help her (or Bill) in Arkansas, then she is against gun control.

If talking about gun control will hurt her in November 2016, she just won't talk about it.

If she becomes the Democrats 2016 presidential nominee (heaven help us) and happens to become the nation's leader, well, Hillary is a conservative, she is a Chamber of Commerce Democrat ... she has absolutely no problem with corporate welfare, with elites deciding everything that is best for regular folks, and she loves money and power as much as Donald Trump.

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)

5. Progressive?...What a laugh; not hardly, and she never was. eom

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:11 PM

Nov 2015

angrychair

(8,732 posts)

6. Not sure why she would do that

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:11 PM

Nov 2015

I've been told, by some on this site, that liberals and progressives are irrelevant to the Democratic Party, "don't make a thimble's worth of difference."
Why would she claim to be a progressive if progressives don't matter?
What does a progressive moderate-centerist believe in?

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)

7. weathervane. n/t

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:15 PM

Nov 2015

Gman

(24,780 posts)

8. George HW Bush was progressive and conservative

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Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:22 PM

Nov 2015

When he signed the Americans With Disabilities Act. Sanders is conservative on guns and progressive on other things. Proves how stupid this purity crap is. It's all about how often somebody votes with you.

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