2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I have looked at the legislation that Sen. Sanders has proposed..."
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And she's claiming that Bernie wants to get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-Care, children's healthcare programs, etc.
Whoever did the "looking" for her gave her some bad information. I'm not impressed.
(On edit, Hillary said "eliminate" instead of "get rid of".)
Avalux
(35,015 posts)What she said about Bernie's plan is a lie, and I don't care if this post gets removed either.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Thank you kind friend.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)The "admonished for speaking against Clinton club" that is.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)hill2016
(1,772 posts)The American Health Security Act of 2013 (S. 1782) provides every American with affordable and comprehensive health care services through the establishment of a national American Health Security Program (the Program) that requires each participating state to set up and administer a state single payer health program. The Program provides universal health care coverage for the comprehensive services required under S. 1782 and incorporates Medicare, Medicaid, the Childrens Health Insurance Program, the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and TRICARE (the Department of Defense health care program), but maintains health care programs under the Veterans Affairs Administration. Private health insurance sold by for-profit companies could only exist to provide supplemental coverage.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Those programs would be incorporated, and people would not lose coverage - in fact, coverage would be improved.
Words mean things.
hill2016
(1,772 posts)would disappear.
I don't think she said that people would lose their coverage. As you said, words mean things and what she said was 100% accurate.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)hay rick
(7,643 posts)sunnystarr
(2,638 posts)(and other programs) by replacing it with the new program. The new program is to be administered by the STATES! Which means that each state will determine how the funds will be used for coverage. Like Medicaid which goes under other names in many states.
Living in a red state (TN), after enjoying the functioning of a blue state (NY), I've witnessed the inequities for years. TN cuts off new coverage whenever they feel like it.
Just the thought of TN controlling my Medicare is enough to send me into a panic attack.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)When did the definition of incorporate change to "get rid of"?
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Did she actually say that???
Unbelievable.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Unless he's planning on calling it Medicaid. But it would provably all get scrapped for a National Institute of Health.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)He wants to expand on those programs.
To use the phrase "get rid of" was not being truthful -- especially when announced on tv as fact in a setting with time constraints that didn't allow Bernie to respond to it. He raised his hand several times, to no avail.
glinda
(14,807 posts)I know people like this. Does not make me admire them. Does not make me think that they are cunning nor smart. This is what they do best. Some admire people like this. I look for more in a human. Would have hoped for more sometime in these debates from her because I feel all of candidates should pass muster.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)It was not impressive.