2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDURHAM D
(32,611 posts)That is funny.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)changing mine, sorry
Javaman
(62,534 posts)No tv, goodness me, what will we do?????
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)It's clear as day.
jalan48
(13,888 posts)RandySF
(59,264 posts)He proved tonight that he's not ready for the job.
DianeK
(975 posts)RandySF
(59,264 posts)And so do Bernie's supporters who've been throwing feces for the past few months.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Bernie is building a momentum that is not about to stop.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)makes a person desperate.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)But she's OWED this by the DNC and their pointed goal of having a woman in the White House. That's it. She's going to unite the citizenry (as in Citizens United) and pay them back for their gobs of monetary support.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Hawkish and WallStreet-ish.
Seriously. Nothing is more terrifying than having BushLite as the leader of the free-world.
Admiral Loinpresser
(3,859 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)BainsBane
(53,072 posts)I faced obstacles in the one major piece of legislation I got passed in over thirty years in congress.
That's not a crisis. That's part of the legislative process.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)one of the candidates did not answer the question at all. Bernie should have known they would ask something like this, after Paris. He was unprepared.
Did you see other times? For any of them?
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)bernie's skill and dedication on their behalf he was able to bring to fruition with agreement from the do nothing gop. bernie has the skill for compromise - something every leader must possess on the national and world tables.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)to her billionaire backers. How can Democrats side with the billionaires that literally buy our government? Do they think they might get some money or a pat on the head. The 1% doesn't love you. The 1% contributes to our poverty.
PBass
(1,537 posts)"No matter how "ready" Clinton is, her first allegience is to her billionaire backers."
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)That return will come at the expense of the poor and working class that Goldman-Sachs doesn't give a crap about.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Corporations are people, my friend.
They're beginning to sound like Mitt Romney's supporters!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)profiting from it too.
To heck with Climate Change too. Some people really can't see the forest from the trees.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)pages, and he explains it very well. We teach too little of being open-minded, skeptical, and always be wary of authority.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:13 AM - Edit history (1)
Cha
(297,723 posts)bernie's name. Translation.. insults are all they have and Bernie didn't win anything.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Lilith Rising
(184 posts)disagree *stupid*.
How to Win Friends and Influence People?
demwing
(16,916 posts)Bernie did fine, but MOM was pretty damned compelling
Metric System
(6,048 posts)DianeK
(975 posts)i don't take it back..it is not meant to be insulting..but if your mind is wide open then you get it..if not..well ..live with the consequences
Metric System
(6,048 posts)DianeK
(975 posts)your candidate..she lost this one..suck it up
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)They're going through boxes of kleenex now at a phenomenal rate!
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)He did good overall, but I though his answer to the opening question about Paris came across as deflecting, and I thought his answer to the crisis question at the end was terrible.
Bernie!!!
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)- All three candidates did well;
- Mrs. Clinton was forced on the defensive often, and I believe as a result finished a respectable but definite third; her answer about not being influenced by Wall Street $$$ is as unconvincing as similar remarks by Justice Kennedy in the Citizens United decision; her position on Glass-Steagall is just plain wrong and an example of why her answer about not being influenced by Wall Street $$$ is unconvincing;
- While Mrs. did well, she definitely did not win the debate and some of the remarks up post are just a lot of hooey and any remarks from the establishment media that she won were probably written days ago and mailed in.
- The best lines of the night were Bernie's "I'm not as good a socialist as Eisenhower" and O'Malley' referent to The Donald as "an immigrant-bashing carnival barker."
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)That one got a huge round of applause at the debate party.
It was a party where all Democrats were encouraged to attend but it was like 28 for Bernie and 2 for Hillary and 1 for O'Malley. I think Bernie is going to win Minnesota easy. I run into a lot of Bernie people.
reddread
(6,896 posts)Jarqui
(10,130 posts)He had to close the gap in the Iowa polls - I'm almost sure he did.
The other thing he did tonight by trouncing Hillary was to provide some credibility to his campaign. He really needed this performance tonight and he delivered.
We can talk about Hillary's advertising bucks - and having so much more than Bernie. But there are some other big TV bucks to be had as Donald Trump's ratings have shown. The networks are hungry for ratings. They can put their finger on the scale here and give Bernie a little more free exposure like they did with Obama (& like they have with Trump). That will tighten up the race some. If they do, they've got a primary conte$t for the winter and maybe the spring ....
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Response to DianeK (Original post)
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MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But be careful how you say Hillary lost, because if you compare it to a sinking rock, someone will hide your post and say you are sexist.
So, let's see.... Bernie Sanders won, and yes, it was largely due to the thinking numbers of people who can hear and see the debate.
O'Malley (in my opinion) did very well, but Hillary did not - not because she isn't smart enough, it's because she sinks to levels that leave many people not wishing to intrust her to the position of Commander-In-Chief.
How's that? I believe I said it the same way. Now, let's see if someone's so angry that they try to hide my opinion right along with others.
Go Bernie!
Hekate
(90,829 posts)....for the very first question (because the worst attack on Paris since WW II is front and center just now) he immediately gave his standard economic stump speech. Oooooooo-Kay. It's like he didn't even hear it. Foreign policy is not on the man's radar. However, it is very much going to be on the desk of whoever is in the Oval Office in 2017. And on the literal radar, if this keeps up.
Among the thinking class, that is.
snort
(2,334 posts)Thinking its time to go to war.
Cha
(297,723 posts)Yeah, that guy.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)Here's another one http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=811243
Cha
(297,723 posts)PretzelsRThem.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)and led to this fiasco? Do you suppose more war will help? Because my guess is that is exactly what you will get with Hillary. She has backers that would like to get their money's worth after all.
Hekate
(90,829 posts)It's truly important to know what presidential aspirants plan to do in case of international emergency.
I can't do anything about your inability to stop repeating lies about Hillary, but the persons you should be worrying about are the front runners in the GOP. Trump has an easy, simple minded solution. He's going to, and I quote, bomb the shit out of them. All the Rs except Dr Ben Spacey have a ready answer.
What, exactly, does Senator Sanders think we ought to be doing about conditions beyond our shores? Repeating his economic injustice stump speech, which he did, is not an answer.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Hillary has already shown she can't be trusted on foreign policy. Your inability to see that, doesn't change the fact.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Yeah, but he needs a majority.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)When I read these posts I begin to wonder if my interlocutors on this board are all or mostly renowned attorneys, physicians, engineers, philosophers, social science researchers, scientists, Nobel laureates, et cetera.
Since I am sharing a board with all these pillars of intellectual heft if they can send me their curriculum vitae or resume, with personal information redacted, of course, for my reading pleasure I would greatly appreciate it.
It will motivate me as well as all of us to step up our game.
Thank you in advance.