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Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:10 PM Nov 2015

How Many Viewers for CBS Democratic Debate?

Anyone have a link to the
total number of viewers for the
Democratic Presidential debate
on CBS?

How bad did DWS screw us
by scheduling the debate
for a Saturday night?

We can't draw a *contrast*
with republicans if no one
watches the debate.

"What's more important, drawing a contrast with Republicans, or arguing about debates?" she asked. "Let's focus on our mission at hand. Let's focus on our task at hand."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/19/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-democrats-debates/
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How Many Viewers for CBS Democratic Debate? (Original Post) Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 OP
Oh DWS screwed us better than that. We have a debate the friday before Christmas... peacebird Nov 2015 #1
DWS is a scourge on the party Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #7
A few other tidbits... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #36
All I can say- ruffburr Nov 2015 #2
+1 online Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #8
I was wondering the same thing: Rachael was saying after the last GOP debate 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #3
Same here... no numbers on teevee or online viewers Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #5
If only there was SOME way, or SOME sort of machine that would let people RECORD things … NurseJackie Nov 2015 #4
Ok, Link to the viewer numbers Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #6
People who are interested will tune it, or use a magical device to record it. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #14
What would be amazing is if Autumn Nov 2015 #13
And if the entire country was on the same time zone ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #15
People can watch a repeat if they have to work Autumn Nov 2015 #17
I think the scheduling perfection that some people seek doesn't actually exist. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #20
You are for limiting our right as voters to hear the candidates speak for themselves? sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #28
7.22 million viewers StrayKat Nov 2015 #9
DWS' plan to *hide* Hillary seems to be working Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #10
The news about Paris didn't help either. n/t StrayKat Nov 2015 #11
Current events can be a curse or a blessing Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #12
That's true. StrayKat Nov 2015 #19
Hillary can't be hidden. She's constantly in the media. Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #16
She's hiding from saying anything spontaneous Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #21
Now your talking points are all mixed up Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #25
As if they are not working together LOL Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #26
Others have made an interesting argument ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #23
*others* HA HA Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #27
Your certainty and confidence displayed here is in contrast to ... NurseJackie Nov 2015 #31
Bernie continues to rise in the polls, even in the establishment polls. He is now at an sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #29
amazing it got that many viewers Robbins Nov 2015 #24
You Bernie Supporters better be glad there weren't any more debates moobu2 Nov 2015 #18
St Bernie LOL... you get that from a republican? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #22
No, I made Saint Bernie up myself thank you. moobu2 Nov 2015 #32
Is that short for Saint Bernard? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #34
'St. Bernie'! Wow! You really are scared of his success I suppose, still sinking to that level sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #30
Momentum lol moobu2 Nov 2015 #33
Well, let's see. When someone goes from 3% all the way to over 30% and continues to rise sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #35

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
1. Oh DWS screwed us better than that. We have a debate the friday before Christmas...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:12 PM
Nov 2015

I'm sure THAT will get huge viewship. Not.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
36. A few other tidbits...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:47 PM
Nov 2015

Last night's debate was scheduled opposite the Iowa Hawkeye football game. We don't have a professional football team in Iowa. However, the state is full of Hawkeye fans. It's a phenomena here, and they have a 9-0 record this season. This was a highly watched game against Minnesota, as it is every year, because it's a major rivalry and the Hawkeyes were going for a 10-0 season--unprecedented in Iowa history.

This was also a home game, played in Iowa City. I would imagine that at least half of the state was either watching the game or sitting in the stands. The state revolves around football on game days.

And guess when the game started? 7:00 p.m. A night game. One hour before the debate began.

So, there's all of that.

Manipulation at its finest.

It's important that Iowa Democrats watch these debates. They vote first and it's important to be informed. It appears that Miss DWS helped to arrange an air date that ensured the worst possible Iowa viewership in the history of debates.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. I was wondering the same thing: Rachael was saying after the last GOP debate
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

how freaking HUGE the viewership was for that, historic & unprecedented.

Maybe she'll have those figures ? I don't know where to find them, as I
already did a quick & dirty google search and came up empty handed.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
5. Same here... no numbers on teevee or online viewers
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:22 PM
Nov 2015

I'm guessing its bad

Would LOVE to see viewer numbers in IOWA!
Debate vs football numbers precisely.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. If only there was SOME way, or SOME sort of machine that would let people RECORD things …
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nov 2015

… to be watched at a later time. And as long as we're wishing ... wouldn't it be nice if that magical device allowed people to fast-forward through commercial breaks? That would be AMAZING!

Absent such a magical device, it appears that the only solution would be to have one debate every day that was on a 24-hour loop on all networks, all cable channels, and all satellite channels.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
6. Ok, Link to the viewer numbers
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:26 PM
Nov 2015

The republicans had over 10 MILLION
viewers for more than one debate.

How many did DWS get for us on a Saturday night?

Screw that crap about DVRs, K.
A Saturday debate is also out of
the weekly news cycle.

You do the Democratic Party
no favor by defending the indefensible.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. People who are interested will tune it, or use a magical device to record it.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

People who aren't interested
will change the channel,
or watch something else
on their magical
recording device.

Changing the day
and time
and frequency
will not really help Bernie,
and based
on last night's performance,
he and his
supporters should be thankful
for that. He's more
of a "stump speech"
and
"rally-the-troops"
kind of speaker.

Instead of whining about the
"DWS conspiracy"
(which you can do
nothing about,
by the way)
perhaps your time and efforts
would be more productive
if you managed to get BS to
have more public appearances.
That seems to be
his strongest venue.

The constant griping
looks as though
you've already conceded
the race
and you know that Bernie has been defeated.
It amounts to little more than
excuse-making.
Surely there must be SOMETHING
you can do to help.
What can be done differently t
hat would produce better results for Bernie?
(I know it's a puzzling question,
but one that Sanders supporters
appear to not take very seriously.)

As far as scheduling goes:
Saturday seems like
a wonderful day to me.
It leaves time for the dust to settle,
for the poll results to come in
and be analyzed, and
we've got the entire following week
to talk about it.
(As long as there isn't some
other global or national tragedy
that takes center stage.)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. And if the entire country was on the same time zone ...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

... and worked the exact same schedule, and ate dinner at the exact same time, and sat down to watch TV at the same time. Wouldn't that be great?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
20. I think the scheduling perfection that some people seek doesn't actually exist.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:07 PM
Nov 2015

The fact of the matter is that at any given point in any given day, there is a significant percentage of the population who have something else to do. There will always be a subset that doesn't have cable, or DVR's, or VCR's, or internet. You'll just have to trust that they can read, or if they're interested enough, that they'll seek additional information from other sources. The notion that ALL voters can be forced to watch the debates at the "perfect" time isn't realistic.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. You are for limiting our right as voters to hear the candidates speak for themselves?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nov 2015

Why, why would you support denying voters that right?

If you think it's helping Hillary, it isn't. I has angered even some of her supporters who are FOR the democratic process being open and FREE.

And it has created the impression that her supporters do not have much confidence in her.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
9. 7.22 million viewers
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:29 PM
Nov 2015
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/11/15/tv-ratings-saturday-nov-14-2015/

A Democratic Party presidential debate on CBS drew the smallest audience thus far among the series of primary debates — not much surprise given its Saturday-night slot. It scored a 1.5 rating in adults 18-49 and 7.22 million viewers. By comparison, the first Democratic debate on CNN in October brought in a 3.4 rating and more than 15 million viewers.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
10. DWS' plan to *hide* Hillary seems to be working
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:34 PM
Nov 2015

Looks like the demographic the
democrats NEED TO REACH
were not quite as *available*
on a Saturday eve?

Cant's wait to see how DISMAL
the December debate numbers look


DWS sure knows how to draw *contrast*.
Republicans get 14 million viewers...
Democrats get 7 million, WTG Debbie

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
12. Current events can be a curse or a blessing
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:39 PM
Nov 2015

I think the in the long view
it helped Bernie and Martin
to draw contrast with Hillary's
horrific policies in the middle east.

The Clinton Doctrine is fueling jihadists.

StrayKat

(570 posts)
19. That's true.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:55 PM
Nov 2015

It's true that current events can help or hurt, but I think in this case it hurt overall with democratic messaging. It didn't help with post-debate coverage, which I think is just as important as the debates themselves and seemed to me to be cut short or non-existant because there was 'bigger' news.

I'm not even sure it helped Sanders or O'Malley because both of them are running on their domestic policy records as well as trying to push domestic agendas of cleaning up Wall Street, upping the minimum wage, tightening gun legislation, police reform, etc. This was supposed to be the domestic policy debate -- their time to shine. Instead, a good chunk of it was taken up with foreign policy, which is also covered in other debates. The problem of Daesh is huge and needs much attention, but from my perspective last night it cut into showcasing SBS' and MOM's strengths.

The left sees our actions in the Middle East as exacerbating the Daesh problem, but I'm not sure the the undecideds or the fence-sitters see that. The recent events even have some people with somewhat liberal mindsets on other issues using the rhetoric of war. So, I don't know how much Clinton's hawkishness hurt her last night.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
16. Hillary can't be hidden. She's constantly in the media.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nov 2015

It's Bernie who's being hidden.

He just can't seem to stand out. People are tuning him out.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
26. As if they are not working together LOL
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:36 PM
Nov 2015
Wasserman Schultz announced her support of Hillary Clinton for her party's 2008 presidential nomination, and in June 2007 was named one of Clinton's national campaign co-chairs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz


Somethings never change

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. Others have made an interesting argument ...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

... the current debate schedule may be helping Bernie to hold on longer. It's impossible for me to be sure (how would you measure or test the theory anyway) but based on what we've seen so far, it's a theory that certainly makes a lot of sense.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. Your certainty and confidence displayed here is in contrast to ...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:01 PM
Nov 2015

... your despair about the debate schedule. Either you're not as confident as you would have us believe, or you are not as concerned about the debate schedule as you claim. I wonder which one it is.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. Bernie continues to rise in the polls, even in the establishment polls. He is now at an
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

amazing rate, more than one third of the Dem primary vote, rising 4 points over the course of one month, as more and more people get to know him.

The momentum won't stop it only increases as his name and message are heard by more people despite the effort by DWS to prevent that.

Social Media is a powerful tool to fight this kind of suppression. Debbie can't control that.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
18. You Bernie Supporters better be glad there weren't any more debates
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:54 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie didn't look good in any of them at all and I can't see how more would have made a difference. I guess they have to blame something other than St. Bernie.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
22. St Bernie LOL... you get that from a republican?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:12 PM
Nov 2015

Remember Obama the messiah?


Nice right-wing talking point

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
30. 'St. Bernie'! Wow! You really are scared of his success I suppose, still sinking to that level
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:46 PM
Nov 2015

of derision is hardly going to stop his amazing momentum. He won last night's debate as he did the last debate which is obviously why DWS is so terrified of debates.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
35. Well, let's see. When someone goes from 3% all the way to over 30% and continues to rise
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:38 PM
Nov 2015

in the polls, more in states where his campaign has been focused, for obvious reasons, that is called momentum.

And when someone who was at over 80% in the polls continues to go down, to 60%, 50%, that is called falling in the polls.

Bernie iow, has closed a gap of approx 70% to now only 20% in just a few months. THAT is called momentum.

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