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those were some really high numbers she was throwing out there, and I wondered at the time
if they were exaggerated or not.

Thanks for verifying that they were more "mis-rememberings" from the Clinton Camp.

This proves that she is lying? Really? You should alert the Benghazi Committee.

And she will not be called out on that obvious lie either. She will also get a pass on that outright lie here on DU by the ones that complain the loudest on the hun issue.

I will wait for them to comment

Cue the NRA talking points...

How do you square that with the facts? Is Hillary now deemed to be clairvoyant?

She said what she said. She made it up as she went and her campaign was forced to cover for her once again.

Um...

Looks like the discrepancy is because the Gun Violence Archive only counts homicides and not suicides. Hillary was right about the total number of gun deaths.

writes and don't every check facts for themselves, but gun violence is one issue that I know a lot about and whoever wrote this article simply made a mistake.

it gives those who are rabid 2nd Amendment supporters something to point at to rally the undecided voters against Democrats. IMO, it appears that most of us and all of our candidates see a need for greater regulation of firearms. Putting out alleged facts that have no basis in reality hurts and does not help getting better regulation.

JMHO

There are roughly 30k to 35k gun deaths in America each year.

I don't know where the 11,485 figure comes from or what it's for - I guess it's the number of firearm homicides, carefully excluding suicides and probably accidents as well. But for total gun deaths in a month, Clinton's figure will be right to at least one significant figure.

I don't know about mass vs non-mass shootings. Obviously, it will depend on how many people you count as "mass" - it may well be that Clinton is counting every episode where more than one person was shot as a "mass shooting", which would be contentious but not an outright lie.

So I don't know if Clinton has told any lies or not - I strongly suspect she hasn't, but I don't know what the sources of her data are. But the author of this bullshit hatchet job is doing so about at least one of the claims in question.

but it isn't Hillary. There have been about 31k gun deaths so far this year which is about 2.7k a month. She apparently rounded up. The liar you site chose to count only homicides. Thanks for bringing NRA talking points to us.

She said died, she didn't say were murdered, she said died. And she was 100 percent, gold carat correct using that term. BTW, I listen to AP news on Sirius (they do news breaks on 127 Progress) and they are fairly right wing to be honest. I have no idea if that is a new development but it is a development.

Fudging the numbers or straight out lying, the behavior is absolutely consistent, I will give her that much credit.