2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolitico: Insiders: Bad night for Bernie
One day after the Paris attacks, Democrats viewed him as unprepared to talk in depth about foreign policy.
By KATIE GLUECK 11/15/15 06:50 AM EST
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/insiders-bad-night-for-bernie-215901
Bernie Sanders had the weakest night of the three Democrats onstage at Saturday nights debate.
Thats according to a survey of the POLITICO Caucus, a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, who weighed in immediately following the second Democratic primary debate.
Nearly half of Democrats surveyed said the Vermont senator lost the debate, and only 10 percent of Democrats said he won. Those insiders who said Sanders had the worst night argued that he appeared out of his depth on foreign policy a day after terrorist attacks rocked France. He spent just a few seconds addressing the matter in his opening statement before pivoting to his familiar pitch about the economy, in stark contrast to rival Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state who devoted her entire statement to the Paris attacks.
He made a mistake right off the bat in switching from Paris to the economy, and had an uneven performance, a New Hampshire Democrat said.
"He was clearly not comfortable discussing detail on foreign policy matters," agreed another New Hampshire Democrat.
Others said the self-described democratic socialist made no effort to appeal to the broader Democratic Party, and reinforced perceptions Saturday night that he is unelectable....
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)This a-bit-too-ambitious Beltway hack also wrote about "anonymous insiders" when she penned an HRC-groveling piece concerning the first debate.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)but there's no indication of how many (or which) members were consulted. Basically, for all we know, the people quoted could be die-hard Hillary supporters. I question the perceptive skills of any "insider" who fails to grasp that Hillary's 9/11 comment was the biggest blunder of the evening, and one that will be difficult to live down.
enid602
(8,652 posts)Bernie's answer to the last question (asking him to share an example of how he reacted to a crisis (a la Paris attacks)) was a summary of his struggle to enact veterans' legislation. Pathetic.
And by the way, Romney did write an op ed in today's WaPo, giving many the idea that he might run again. Apparently it's not too late.
left on green only
(1,484 posts)......or you possess the humility that enables you to empathize with veterans. Move along. Nothing to see here folks!
On the other hand, the Hills' pathetic attempt to co-opt Obama's final responsibility in making the decision to go after Ben Lob-em, reeks of the disparity of similar comments that were made by the shrub, right after it happened.
enid602
(8,652 posts)The point is that Bernie did not answer the question asked. Not a good debate strategy.
left on green only
(1,484 posts).....or are you just happy to see me? Again I would infer that Bernie's response to the question was far more substantive than you will ever be capable of comprehending.
enid602
(8,652 posts)I see you've inherited Bernie's lack of logic.
DianeK
(975 posts)politico slants right
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)I'm sure the "insiders" thought Hillary did just fine.
Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)Was that she was part of that insiders club.
"Insiders thought she did great!"
jeff47
(26,549 posts)I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that they think Sanders didn't do well.
Clinton could spend the next debate doing nothing but shouting "9/11!" and "Women!", and these same insiders would say she was brilliant.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)a bipartisan group of influential strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.
Triana
(22,666 posts)is mostly trash, IMO.
They're just playing into this meme:
"It was tailor-made to make Sanders look bad."
http://time.com/4113762/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-argument/
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)I wanted to see how many BO supporters would say that politico was crap, or that basically any poll having Clinton winning any debate was payed off by wall street, small sample size, etc.....
You guys never let me down.