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Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:38 PM Nov 2015

"Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race"

From November 16, 2007.

In the national standings of the Democratic presidential candidates seeking their party's nomination next year, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton continues to hold a strong 27-point lead over second-place rival Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, according to a new Gallup Poll. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards remains further behind in third place.

According to the Nov. 11-14, 2007, poll, 48% of Democrats say they are most likely to support Clinton for the party’s presidential nomination in 2008, followed by Obama at 21% and Edwards at 12%. No other candidate garners more than 4% support.


Perhaps this is why so many of us are tired of the proclamations that Clinton has already won this. That Sanders supports should just stop being divisive and admit that the nominee has been crowned. We aren't groveling at the feet of our new presidential candidate because we actually remember what happened 8 years ago and that Clinton lost the nomination with pretty much the EXACT SAME NUMBERS that she has at this point in the process 8 years ago.
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"Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race" (Original Post) Goblinmonger Nov 2015 OP
K N R Faux pas Nov 2015 #1
If Edwards hadn't been running Robbins Nov 2015 #2
Obama's message was hope and change. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #3
+1 bravenak Nov 2015 #6
Sanders' message is about economic justice Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #7
All of our candidates are about it. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #9
Nobody has proclaimed that Clinton "has won this"...we're just pointing out that she's winning. brooklynite Nov 2015 #4
Are you reading the same DU I am? Goblinmonger Nov 2015 #8
Clinton is actually further ahead at this point in just about every metric. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #5
Instead of "Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race", bvar22 Nov 2015 #10

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
2. If Edwards hadn't been running
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:14 PM
Nov 2015

her numbers would have likely been higher.

Yeah Clinton's numbers are higher than they were at this time in 2007 but bernie is higher than Obama was at this time in 2007.
Sorry O'Malley fans but this race is basicly a 2 person race.even if you still think O'Malley has a shot.this is much smaller field.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Obama's message was hope and change.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

Bernie seems to be going with cynicism and bitterness. Also, Bernie is polling at 8% with African Americans.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
7. Sanders' message is about economic justice
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:27 PM
Nov 2015

at a time when we are reaching the income gaps we had in the 20s, so it seems like a good time to get that shit under control.

brooklynite

(94,681 posts)
4. Nobody has proclaimed that Clinton "has won this"...we're just pointing out that she's winning.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:15 PM
Nov 2015

That extract of yours has a critical number: 48. in 2007-2008, Clinton was never consistently over 50%, allowing Obama to assembling a winning coalition. This time around, she consistently IS over 50% (and is currently rising in the polls).

I could also point out that 1) Obama was a polished debater; 2) he had far more money in the bank; 3) he had far more political endorsements; and 4) he had a far larger campaign team on the ground.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Clinton is actually further ahead at this point in just about every metric.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:17 PM
Nov 2015

There is no Obama this time around. You are missing that Edwards and a couple others were polling somewhat well. Truly apples and oranges.

As to your overall point, no Sanders supporter should give up in any way. I would never back that even if I feel and say I think Clinton has it locked up.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
10. Instead of "Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race",
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:33 PM
Nov 2015

headline should be changed to read,
"Wall Street sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race."

Just as accurate...if not more so.

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